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Ok. What is the chance of a Picard spinoff?

Consolidation and tighter budgets coould give people less of a reason to stay home and watch things than go to theaters.

Who wants to pay inflated prices to watch the people around them playing with their phones while the movie is taking place? :shifty:
 
I won’t watch the video, but do they really expect a petition to do anything? If so, then I’m sorry, but that’s a bit delusional
The guys that did the petition were able to see season 3 several months back. They've interviewed Terry Matalas, have talked about how their petition has been covered in the media, and it has been shared on social media by season 3 actors. They make their case based on the leaked audio from the IMAX Q&A, Matalas trying to cut off a response about a question of seeing Seven of Nine again soon, and how Alex Kurtzman's approach has changed in public vs at the season premiere screening. They argue that Legacy could also be a miniseries.

Kurtzman has mooted a Janeway/Seven miniseries in the past. Could see this flowing into something Legacy related.

I was in these forums (on an old account) in the early 2000s / late 1990s. I remember folks basically SCREAMING at Berman and Braga to grab the obvious story paths and potential character development standing right in front of them. And they would not do it. We found out later some of that was because UPN wouldn't let them, some of that was burnout, and some of them was creative myopia.
To be fair, UPN did kinda have a point about too much serialization. When it was airing, DS9 was my least favorite series because episodes would constantly be preempted or joined in progress, so I got lost in the ongoing storyline:brickwall:.

The earliest they could have a STL out is 2025 at the earliest. By that time Lower Decks if it gets another approved season will be on season 6!, Prodigy will be on season 3 probably. SNWs if it gets another season for 2025 will be on season 4 (SNW has at max a life of 5 seasons before we end up in the TOS toes if need be they can close it at 4 seasons even,for streaming that's a long run), and Academy will have its first season, Discovery will have been over by a year at this time.
The thing with Prodigy is that "a season" is really two seasons. Adding a third season would effectively be a six year run.
 
The thing with Prodigy is that "a season" is really two seasons. Adding a third season would effectively be a six year run.

Season 1 of prodigy was about 430 minutes of Trek (20
Episodes about 23 minutes long plus credits). Season 1 of tng was over 1000. Season 3 of Picard about 500.
 
It is actually the answer. It's explanation by comparing the media strategies of two long time peer franchises. In this respect, they are the same.

I like Prodigy and LD a lot, but they are absolutely accessories. Same as Bad Batch and Tales of the Jedi. Doesn't make them any worse. They're all great! But they orbit the live action core.

There you have it. Enjoy my answer.
Still not sure what question you think you’re answering or what answer you’re countering, You said that the 23rd Century is at the core of the franchise right now. I said it’s not and gave examples of current shows set in other eras. The next two shows seem to be set in the 32nd and 25th Centuries. The next film is set in an unknown era, but probably not the 23rd Century.
You earlier claimed that Kurtzman and Co., forgot about the 24th Century yet no less that three shows put out by them are based on or in the 24th Century.
So yeah, I’m having trouble accepting the ideas that the 23rd Century is currently the core of the franchise or that Kurztman “forgot” about the 24th Century.
 

It's been established that Pike's injury is in 2266 so that's an end time there, unless they change the future (which turned out bad in the season finale of SNW)

Doesn't mean they have to stick to 1 year per season though.
 
It has four seasons. 47 episodes in total. It takes about 6 episodes to really get going.
This is my plan for how I'm going about this:

  • Re-Watch all of TNG Season 1 --> Everything from Gene Roddenberry & Company's version of the TNG Characters and the 24th Century, completely unchanged by anything that came later. Plus The Questor Tapes as an added bonus.
  • "Attached" (TNG)
  • "Preemptive Strike" (TNG)
  • "All Good Things" (TNG)
  • "Endgame" (VOY)
  • Picard Season 1
  • Watch all of The 12 Monkeys --> I've never seen (or read) any other version of it. So, this will be my first exposure.
  • Picard Season 2
  • "Assignment: Earth" (TOS) between "Watcher" (PIC S2E4) and "Fly Me to the Moon" (PIC S2E5).
  • Picard Season 3

This will also allow PIC Season 3 some time to age a little before I circle around back to it.

EDIT: List updated as per cal888's suggestion.
 
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It's been established that Pike's injury is in 2266 so that's an end time there, unless they change the future (which turned out bad in the season finale of SNW)

Doesn't mean they have to stick to 1 year per season though.
.....or they continue on with the adventures of Captain Kirk and crew.
 
  • "Assignment: Earth" (TOS)
  • Picard Season 2
  • Watch all of 12 Monkeys --> I've never seen (or read) any other version of it. So, this will be my first exposure.
  • Picard Season 3
If I could make a suggestion? I'd watch 12 Monkeys before Picard Season 2. There are several Easter eggs to the former in the later, and without giving anything away, what they were trying to do with Young Guinan might have a different reading after seeing 12 Monkeys.

And, yeah, probably good to go into the series without seeing the film. The original pilot for the series was backwards adapted to reference the film to get green lit.
 
If I could make a suggestion? I'd watch 12 Monkeys before Picard Season 2. There are several Easter eggs to the former in the later, and without giving anything away, what they were trying to do with Young Guinan might have a different reading after seeing 12 Monkeys.

And, yeah, probably good to go into the series without seeing the film. The original pilot for the series was backwards adapted to reference the film to get green lit.
I'll switch the order then. I'll put The 12 Monkeys before PIC Season 2.

I'm also adding in The Questor Tapes, which I've managed to find. I've been looking for that one for decades. I've only just finished "Encounter at Farpoint", so I'm watching Questor before "The Naked Now". Why? Because I know the Data/Yar scene was based on something from there.
 
To be fair, UPN did kinda have a point about too much serialization. When it was airing, DS9 was my least favorite series because episodes would constantly be preempted or joined in progress, so I got lost in the ongoing storyline:brickwall:.
People love serialization nowadays, but I think you hit the nail on the head here. The essential coponent is being able to watch any episode, any time, like a chapter in a book. That requires streaming. If the episodes only air in sequential order and get bumped by Hockey or MLB, it wrecks the story.

Trek had a lavish budget for a 1990s TV show, regardless of being Sci Fi or not. And it had a huge mount of creative freedom compared to the bigger shows at the time. This allowed it in many ways to anticipate the way things were going to go in the next 15-20 years. Things like the proto-MCU in the movies/TV shared universe integration.Things like heavy use of green screening in live action. And yes serialized plot lines. But like with many things, the technology wasn't quite there yet.
 
People love serialization nowadays, but I think you hit the nail on the head here. The essential coponent is being able to watch any episode, any time, like a chapter in a book. That requires streaming. If the episodes only air in sequential order and get bumped by Hockey or MLB, it wrecks the story.
Exhibit A: BABYLON 5. I watched here and there in season 1, but just fell out. Unfortunately I didn't grow up in a TV market like Los Angeles where it would have had a stable primetime slot to air in. Now B5's a good topic for if a series should have a continuation or be rebooted!

Most serialization in the 1980's and 1990's were primetime soaps and police / lawyer / medical shows where episodes would have rolling plots week to week, but everything you'd need to know if you missed an episode would be on the "previously on" segment. Shows that tried to buck the trend, like TWIN PEAKS, didn't last that long.
 
EDIT: List updated as per cal888's suggestion.
What am I being ripped apart now for to get the bold treatment? Oh wait, that's actually a compliment :biggrin:

I'll switch the order then. I'll put The 12 Monkeys before PIC Season 2.
I hope you enjoy! Maybe later in the year there could be a how did 12 Monkeys inform seasons 2 and 3 of Picard thread.
 
Exhibit A: BABYLON 5. I watched here and there in season 1, but just fell out. Unfortunately I didn't grow up in a TV market like Los Angeles where it would have had a stable primetime slot to air in. Now B5's a good topic for if a series should have a continuation or be rebooted!

Most serialization in the 1980's and 1990's were primetime soaps and police / lawyer / medical shows where episodes would have rolling plots week to week, but everything you'd need to know if you missed an episode would be on the "previously on" segment. Shows that tried to buck the trend, like TWIN PEAKS, didn't last that long.

JMS has been trying to reboot the thing for The CW for the past couple of years:

https://twitter.com/straczynski/status/1651262362341498880?s=19
 
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