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Sony Spider-Verse discussion thread

Oh no "El Muerto" seems to be stuck in Development Hell. Please don't deprive the world of this masterpiece Mr. Sony.

"Last year, Sony Pictures announced he would star in a Spider-Man spin-off, El Muerto, as Marvel’s first Latino superhero. During our interview, Benito feigned confusion when asked about the movie and said that no filming had yet taken place. Benito’s publicist said that the movie was “at a standstill,” and later clarified that it’s “in development.”"

https://time.com/6266349/bad-bunny-cover-story/
 
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Christopher said:
Umm... Miles Morales? Yo-Yo Rodriguez from Agents of SHIELD?
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And America Chavez and Ajak (plus kind of Sam's sidekick from FatWS).

But that's the way these kinds of sweeping statements in behind the scenes material tend to be: aggressively overexaggerated in a desperate attempt to generate attention. Like how Michael Burnham was going to be the 'first black' lead character in Star Trek.
 
Rich Watson said:
Oh no "El Muerto" seems to be stuck in Development Hell. Please don't deprive the world of this masterpiece Mr. Sony.

"Last year, Sony Pictures announced he would star in a Spider-Man spin-off, El Muerto, as Marvel’s first Latino superhero. During our interview, Benito feigned confusion when asked about the movie and said that no filming had yet taken place. Benito’s publicist said that the movie was “at a standstill,” and later clarified that it’s “in development.”"

https://time.com/6266349/bad-bunny-cover-story/
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And does anybody besides the creative team even care?
 
Turtletrekker said:
Cinecon presentation shows footage and reveals that Kraven the Hunter will be rated R and features the characters The Chameleon, Calypso and the Rhino. No word yet if the footage shown at the con will make it to YouTube or not.

https://deadline.com/2023/04/kraven-the-hunter-trailer-footage-cinemacon-1235335768/
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So Kraven got to be R, but the movies with Venom and Carnage were stuck at PG-13. I wonder if Morbius really scared Sony, so they're hoping an R rating will draw more people to Kraven. Isn't he still supposed to be a Animal activist in this film instead of a real hunter? Regardless I'm sure its going to suck, and I wonder if an R rating will help it enough to be profitable.
 
Meh.

I still don't see how they can do a villain whose very existence is defined by Spider-Man but not include Spider-Man. Especially when his most famous story is about hunting Spider-Man.

But they did it with Venom, so I guess they see it as a brilliant move.
 
They did it with Venom, but Venom 2 made over 300 million less then the first movie. Then Morbius, while it made more then its budget, between the marketing and the weirdness of them putting it back in theaters for a bit (probably unsuccessfully) I'm not sure if it did anything except maybe break even. They're definitely seeing diminishing returns, and Kraven is far from a guaranteed success.
 
So do we think Sony will ever realise they'd be best off licensing the character rights back to Marvel and co-financing one MCU movie a year using their characters ?
 
Relayer1 said:
So do we think Sony will ever realise they'd be best off licensing the character rights back to Marvel and co-financing one MCU movie a year using their characters ?
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How can a licensee license something back to the licensor? That would be like me trying to rent my apartment to the owner of the building. If Sony returned the screen rights to Marvel, that wouldn't be sublicensing, it would be letting the license lapse.
 
Christopher said:
How can a licensee license something back to the licensor? That would be like me trying to rent my apartment to the owner of the building. If Sony returned the screen rights to Marvel, that wouldn't be sublicensing, it would be letting the license lapse.
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It wouldn't be a license, it would be an agreement to let Marvel run their licensed projects for them.

Which is more or less already happening with Spider-man himself, but for some reason they keep feeling the need to throw money away on stuff like Morbius, Kraven, El Muerto, etc.
 
Grendelsbayne said:
It wouldn't be a license, it would be an agreement to let Marvel run their licensed projects for them.

Which is more or less already happening with Spider-man himself, but for some reason they keep feeling the need to throw money away on stuff like Morbius, Kraven, El Muerto, etc.
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Yeah, that. Do what they do with Spidey in the MCU for their other characters for a share of the profits.

Or yes, they could just sell the rights back to Marvel. It depends if the returns on their own productions continue to disappoint.
 
Grendelsbayne said:
It wouldn't be a license, it would be an agreement to let Marvel run their licensed projects for them.

Which is more or less already happening with Spider-man himself, but for some reason they keep feeling the need to throw money away on stuff like Morbius, Kraven, El Muerto, etc.
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That makes more sense.


Relayer1 said:
Or yes, they could just sell the rights back to Marvel.
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I think that wouldn't be "selling" so much as agreeing to let Marvel buy out their contract.
 
Selling the rights back, or whatever anyone wants to call it, will never happen as long as Sony continues to make movies and Spidey remains anywhere near his current level of popularity.

The right to make Spider-man movies is the closest thing to the goose that lays golden eggs that exists in Hollywood, unless someone could get James Cameron to sign a lifetime exclusive contract. Even the deeply hated ASM movies grossed over 700m each, in the same financial ballpark as vastly more beloved movies like The Winter Soldier or Guardians of the Galaxy. The power of Spider-man is not something anyone will ever give up voluntarily.
 
The Nth Doctor said:
Right, which just goes to show they have no idea why that first one was a success and have mistaken it for "Spider-Man-less villain films is a winning formula!"
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Because you pay for your ticket before you see the film and realise it's bad? Hahaha.

Sony has always wanted to do the villains, for some weird reason. That's why, after they sacked Garfield, they still were developing a Sinister Six movie without Spidey.

Bizarre
 
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