I remmeber confusing the salt vampire from tos with Anya, the dauphin lady from the episode the dauphin. I remmeber watching the dauphin thinking, wth happened to the dialogue about salt. Then randomly watched the tos episode and realized, oh wait the salt vampire is in tos?? They're so similar aren't they?
Misogyny and Racism in STU
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I remmeber confusing the salt vampire from tos with Anya, the dauphin lady from the episode the dauphin. I remmeber watching the dauphin thinking, wth happened to the dialogue about salt. Then randomly watched the tos episode and realized, oh wait the salt vampire is in tos?? They're so similar aren't they?
The Salt Vampire wore a primitive-looking loosely woven mesh garment.
The Horta appeared to be in a state of nature.
I was merely picturing that the SV might not count because it does simulate clothing. Also because one individual might not count as a "race".
Not that I intend to spend any time studying the state of nudity, or exposure of private parts, of a horrific predatory inhuman creature.
Or at least nothing I'll admit to.
Not that there's anything wrong with that.
Okay, shutting up now.
Really??? Now I need to go back and look.
Not that I intend to spend any time studying the state of nudity, or exposure of private parts, of a horrific predatory inhuman creature.
Or at least nothing I'll admit to.
Not that there's anything wrong with that.
Okay, shutting up now.
Yeppers!
This is true. However, the simple truth is that humans are jerks.
Yeah Salt Vampire was wearing one of Cher's Oscar dresses.
I feel that logically, Troi should've had a staff, if only because she might be incapacitated for some reason or because someone might be uncomfortable talking with her.
We saw in "Hollow Pursuits" that Barclay was VERY uncomfortable talking with Troi as a therapist because of his attraction to her (Thankfully, he got over it, but there should have been another person available for him to talk to). And in "Man of the People," Troi seduces an ensign when she's not in her right mind. Think about that. This guy has slept with the ship's therapist. Who does he talk with to work through his feelings about that?
Quick aside: I think it would've been hilarious if they cast the "Man of the People" ensign with the same actor that played the crewman that Yar seduced in "The Naked Now." He's just this nameless guy who pops up and gets seduced whenever a character on the show is mind controlled.
TNG writer Joe Menosky said that the thing that would date the show the most was the 1980's belief that the ship's therapist was important enough to have the third seat on the bridge. He was damn right, IMO.
When Gene Roddenberry did the album Inside Star Trek in the 1970s, he did an "interview" with Sarek that went into detail about Spock's conception. Sarek said that Spock's fetus was removed from Amanda for a few months so they could work on him before he was implanted into Amanda's womb again. So he at least tried to address the implausibility of it.
You can listen to the segment here if you'd like. It starts at 14:45 if the URL coding doesn't work properly:
BTW, Roddenberry talked to Mark Lenard in character as Sarek because Leonard Nimoy was still in the midst of his lawsuit against Paramount over the rights to his likeness at this time. Nimoy was the only main cast member of TOS who didn't participate, IIRC.
They probably just felt that Troi having a mixed heritage would be a good device to get stories from. It certainly worked for Spock.
They already had Worf for that (even though he was fully Klingon, genetically). Perhaps she was meant as a backup, then, because the number of 'heritage conflict' stories featuring Deanna is quite low (from the top of my head, I only recall Haven using that as a plot element).
Yeah, but keep in mind that Worf was basically an afterthought in the early days of TNG. They only added a Klingon crewman at the urging of Bob Justman to show that the Organians' prediction of peace had come true, and IIRC, I'm not even sure if Michael Dorn was contracted to appear in every episode. Gene Roddenberry originally didn't want any reference to TOS aliens like Vulcans, Romulans, and Klingons.
So if anyone was considered a "backup," it was Worf, not Troi.
^Right. Never knew about those backgrounds.
It might've been justified if we'd ever gotten that "Captain Barclay" series.
Troi role should have been, first contact specialist/diplomatic officer. Another alien character should be the therapist reporting to Dr Crusher
ST novelist Christopher L. Bennett established that Troi was indeed a first contact specialist in addition to being head of mental health services, and that's why she was on the bridge so often.
Eh, just fix it digitally in post.
