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You sir are correct. This has everything to do with the mindset of the current writers and how little they care about substance and how much they care for attention fame and money.

Type in rowan Coleman star trek tng/ds9/voy/movies 1-10/ent etc and see him talk about the history and story and making of those shows. It's fascinating how much thought and love was put in those series vs fk all in the current ones.

That is very slanderous. Lots of hard work is put into every episode of Star Trek both old and new.
 
We are all pieces of shit. We just have to actively make intentional decisions each and every day to be better.

And please keep in mind I did concede that Sisko grew over the series and evolved.

I agree that the current brand if humans now is largely that.

And I do concede you said he grew.

But Sisko was never any of the things you said.
 
Well, a fifth fan film is still under edit and not yet submitted. The pandemic and the fan film studio relocating to a new state slowed everything down but I do have a fifth film written and closer than ever to being submitted for production if a slot is open.
 
I may have come off as harsher than needed when it comes to Sisko. I do find him to be the most morally flawed leading officer in recent "Federation" era Starfleet.

(Mind you i do like the character)

It happens. I just read your post, and felt the need to defend Sisko. He's my favorite captain, and holds a special place in my heart. (A great example of leadership and, more importantly, fatherhood.)
 
Well, a fifth fan film is still under edit and not yet submitted. The pandemic and the fan film studio relocating to a new state slowed everything down but I do have a fifth film written and closer than ever to being submitted for production if a slot is open.
You're good writer. Over the years Randy keeps moving East and I'm out north west. I sat down and wrote Sleeping Dragon the day after Dad passed away and Randy put it in his que (Bless his heart) Other than film I've gotten a couple chapters into a book. They just take so damn long to spit out.
 
Thanks so much for the kind words. Randy's a machine for sure and the man is dedicated to the fanfilm community. I have tremendous respect for him.

I know you can't judge much by IMDb rating averages but one of mine has an 8.8/10 and that's a little flattering.
 
I didn't say anything (for or against) him.

He just posted a giant wall of text, and it's readability is more difficult than necessary.

So I'm telling him to learn to use proper formatting to make it easier for other people to read.

I didn't even bother reading a single line of his wall of text.

So there's nothing for/against the guy.

He just needs to format his text so it's easier for other people to read.

So why did you did you feel the need to respond to him in front of the rest of us like this? Sounds like you were trying to do him a favour from what you've said to me, but u didn't. Billy bullshiner
 
Thanks so much for the kind words. Randy's a machine for sure and the man is dedicated to the fanfilm community. I have tremendous respect for him.

I know you can't judge much by IMDb rating averages but one of mine has an 8.8/10 and that's a little flattering.
Ratings don't say a damn thing because they don't come from your piers.
Besides one little parsec award and nobody ever talks to you again... Oh the pain of it all...lol
 
He was dismissive of the Bajoran religious belief and felt uncomfortable meeting with Kai Opaka. He dismissed the Prophets as religious beings to the Bajorans and instead elected to view them as "wormhole aliens".
He's respectful of their beliefs, without ascribing religious attributes that the Prophets/Wormhole Aliens don't even ascribe to themselves in the pilot of Deep Space Nine. Also, the political situation on Bajor is precarious during "The Emissary," meaning that Sisko meeting with any faction may be considered a violation of the Prime Directive.

He didn't want Jake hanging out with Nog because he was a Ferengi and was openly disdainful of the Ferengi, barely concealing his concempt for Quark. It wasn't until well past Season 4 that Sisko began to evolve beyond this a bit.
He didn't want Jake hanging out with Nog, since the first time he meets Nog he's committing a robbery. Also, his contempt for Quark might come from the fact that Quark has a reputation as a criminal which the series plays into for 2 seasons. Beyond that, the series addresses this and Sisko realizes that Quark is a decent person after the season 2 finale ("The Jem'Hadar").

He (while under the influence of his own trauma) blamed Picard, a victim of kidnapping, torture, coercion for something he had no control over and essentially blamed a victim for actions outside of his control. (This was repeated in Shaw, btw)
The entire point of "The Emissary" is that Sisko is in pain and hasn't moved past Wolf 359. We, as the audience, are not supposed to feel Sisko (or Shaw) is right for how he treats Picard. But it sets up the turning point of the pilot where the Prophets confront Sisko about still existing in that moment.

While Sisko did eventually see these character traits diminsh over the course of the series, he is, by far, the biggest piece of shit there ever was as a mainline Starfleet Captain outside of Lorca.
What I find compelling about Sisko is that he's the Starfleet captain that has to deal with consequences. He's the one that isn't on a Starfleet vessel, with the trapping of the Federation. He's the one that's on the ground on an alien space station, being the liaison to an alien culture, having to make difficult decisions out on the frontier away from the paradise of Starfleet Command. As he says, it's easy to be a saint in paradise, but he doesn't live in paradise.
 
Not what Riker did in this exact situation. He expressed his objection to his commanding officer on the IKS Pagh, was told he must follow orders, and at that point he began a plot to commit mutiny against his CO. He then commandeerd the Pagh and refused the lawful order of his CO to attack the Enterprise. (A Matter of Honor)

He also disobeyed a direct, clear and absolute order from his CO in following an illegal order from his old CO. (The Pegasus)

So do the TNG writers also have a problem with authority like you claim the Discovery writers do?

In matter of honor, Riker wasn't going to fire on his own ship and possibly kill his crew and 1000 others just because some klingons desperate for battle are looking for any excuse to blame the enterprise and to destroy them. And the show was clearly trying to show this, it was showing the enterprise discovering about both their ship and the klingons ship being eaten away, and trying to warn the klingons. Riker had to take command to prevent a battle that could lead to war, and he did it to protect the lives of his crew and others in the federation. This is NOTHING like Burnhams mutiny..Burnham is only write because they wrote a Mary sue, who has no experience, logic, empathy, logic, or any trait that's honorable and good.

In the Pegasus, pressman wasn't just an old CO, he was an Admiral, Riker couldn't refuse. And even when he eventually did, it was for moral, and ethical reasons and to expose a conspiracy to break a law and an important treaty. It takes very very extrenusting circumstances for any officer in what I call canon/true trek to disobey an order and have contempt for authority, Burnham however is just contemptuous becsuse she's a delusional arrogant incapable person who only always succeeds because she's nothing but a fantasy Character, written to always overcome impossible odds, to always be right, to only think she's best and knows it all, to judge everyone by her own stupid, irrelevant standards, and occasionally to be pretentious and act like she's so grateful for her crew or any other bs pretentious nonsense the writers write to make her seem like a saint.

Let's look at TNG's Allegiance, look how long it took for Riker to finally disobey Picard. It took a very extrenusting circumstance. He disobeyed only after multiple decisions and multiple uncharacteristic behaviors of Picard before he had to take command, and all other officers agreed with Riker also because they KNOW he was within his rights. Burnham never is. Just look at her character. She's WRITTEN that way, to appear invincible, always right, and saintly, despite lacking experience and being arrogant, a true reflection of the writers themselves. They're arrogant, contemptuous, have no respect for their superior and successful predecessors, and know in real life they always know their place when they're in the shadow of their predecessors, so they cope by writing their characters as being contemptuous and arrogant yet always winning, a complete untrue fantasy of theirs.
 
Your OPINION of "what trek was known to be" is NOT a fact (you present no corroborating evidence, merely assertions of "knowing" what Trek should be like). Ergo, no error of the kind you describe was made on my part. Ergo, your assertions remain factually unfounded AND a textbook case of Dunning-Kruger at work.


And for this heroic defense of the status quo and paramount, they will now call you begging to be your friend. They'll pay you now and invite you to all their parties and social gatherings. Congrats. Defending them has payed off for you.

Oh wait..never mind.

Remember I'm calling peolle outside this forum arrogant or Dunning Kruger, etc. Your here defending them and insulting me. I thought there was a rule against that.

Oh and yes here's what trek is. Trek is about an enlightened humanity. It's about exploration, and yes sometimes self defense involves war. But overall, it's about exploring the final Frontier, growing, learning. Making amicable first contact. It's about honor, loyalty, trust, the truth, etc. Which basically no part of STD a literal STD btw, has been or is. Pic s1 or 2 were awful. Sometimes it's not just what trek is, but also what the established trek Lore is. For example the Q don't die, yet they do in pic s2? Again, no Berman Era writer would EVER conceive of this stupid, incomprehensible plot point. They also wouldn't waste time making season long arcs of yet another "enemy", who's vapid, is evil just because. Etc. The writers today are bad, and the problem with making an entire season of just one chitty bad guy/villain/whatever, is that if you're a terrible talentless writer, and can't write a proper story or characters even if your families lives depended on it, then all you will accomplish is wasting an entire seasons worth of episodes, and $50 million of money (assuming a conservative average of $5mm per episode), creating pure trash, that wont even bring profit. But fear not, most people these days are hired by like minded friends or people who don't know what they're doing. They're not going to fire failures (unless they fail very very bad). It would mean the end of like over 90% or more of the workforce, by setting a standard that making mistakes or failing is unacceptable no matter what, youd suddenly see over 90% of people jobless not just at paramount but in thr whole country. Of course they don't care and even promote failures. It's just a method to set the standard that despite being failures, they will continue to hire and promote each other, and then demand an even longer renewed contact, and even more money. I see mistakes every day now at least 30 times a day, whereas in 1995, mistakes, anywhere, by people who were employed, was EXTREMELY rare and not tolerated. Today these young hires can't make an advertisement without spelling mistakes, factual errors, and so much more. I see mistakes non stop now whereas I rarely would 15-20 years ago and prior
 
He was dismissive of the Bajoran religious belief and felt uncomfortable meeting with Kai Opaka. He dismissed the Prophets as religious beings to the Bajorans and instead elected to view them as "wormhole aliens".

He didn't want Jake hanging out with Nog because he was a Ferengi and was openly disdainful of the Ferengi, barely concealing his concempt for Quark. It wasn't until well past Season 4 that Sisko began to evolve beyond this a bit.

He (while under the influence of his own trauma) blamed Picard, a victim of kidnapping, torture, coercion for something he had no control over and essentially blamed a victim for actions outside of his control. (This was repeated in Shaw, btw)

While Sisko did eventually see these character traits diminsh over the course of the series, he is, by far, the biggest piece of shit there ever was as a mainline Starfleet Captain outside of Lorca.

Now you may say that Siskos character arc means that his flaws gave opportunity for growth, and this is totally true, but it doesn't change that he was those things and he carried those traits through the entire series.

Wait wait wait. So your saying if you had a son, who was spending time with some alien culture or whatever that is exactly the opposite of your own especially enlightened culture, your saying youd let your son just be influenced by an alien culture opposite to yours freely, without having some concern or suspicions of their friendship? So you think sisko should be happy to see his son become basically a ferengi, greedy, profit seeking, willing to sell people out for profit? Because that's what sisko was worried about, at first. And as a parent, and knowing the then established traits of the ferengi, it's not being bigoted or racist if sisko had some reservations about allowing his son to be too friendly with ferengi, fearing they might influence him to be like a ferengi, and if there's one thing the ferengi don't like, it's HUGH MAANS and the federation. Last thing sisko wants is for Jake to started calling humans HUGH MAANS, and cite rules of acquisition. Ben would be losing his son if this was allowed. As the show evolved however he learned more information and the suspicions and concerns subsided. The rule is, treat everyone with respect and how you like to be treated, unless proven otherwise. It's exactly what janeway said "It's always been Starfleet's policy to deal with new species on a basis of openness and trust until proven otherwise"
 
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