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Paramount apparently still doesn't get it...

- the more shows the better
*cough*OneOfTheTrekYardsHosts'Oft-statedBelief*cough*

...which runs the risk of more inferior content outnumbering what good existed in the franchise (ST has been on the losing end where that's concerned for more than two decades).
 
We could argue whether Disco was a successful show for CBS AA when it was first introduced. But we all should at least admit, that Disco S4 was not successful (at all). It ultimately lead to its cancellation. They could’ve axed SNW or even LD, but they canceled DISCO. Which btw is not my fault, i am just completely fine with them stopping the show.

I think they once claimed that each episode of Disco Season 1 had a budget of approx 8 million $ per episode, making it one of most expensive series ever.

DISCO is not a successful show, just accept it. A direct successor to a failed tv series is way more likely to fail than a follower of a successful one. Just place the Starfleet Academy show into the 23rd or 25th century. Make it an artistically and optically successor of SNW or Picard and the show could actually attract a sizable audience.

A loud minority of fans didn’t get the memo and still believes that:

- the more shows the better
- a successor to Discovery would be a good idea.

You have all right to voice this opinion, but it hasn’t anything to do with the general consensus about the best way moving forward for Trek.
Yawn.

These spin-offs you are talking about it:

SNW: the show doesn’t have anything to do with Discovery except for the characters which got introduced first in Disco season 2. The show was specifically designed to demarcate itself from Discovery in both tone and storytelling.

Starfleet Academy has been announced. Nothing more, things can change and they will most likely change.

The Section 31 one off movie: was first announced as a full show. This idea got canceled. It is a one time thing to promote Star Trek with an Academy Awards winner.
Yawning intensifies.

Would this be a good time for some vague charts?
No [/Shaw]
 
May I add that while I sort of like some of snw, and appreciates it's finale, I can't help but realize that in snw, the characters talk top fast, there's no time to absorb the scene, by waiting on it or showing a few different characters reactions. The style of speaking also isn't detailed, slow, and professional like it was in tos and tng. It's quick, filled with unnecessary and unfunny jocularity, and I might add, none of the solutions are as brilliant and thought out as they were in older shows. It's like the writers are just trying to pump out a script as fast as possible on kilograms of caffeine, speeding throigh plot points and dialogue to make it "complete" enough to make it seem like it's coherent and makes sense, without actually having to think about the script and put thought and heart and love and emotion into it. It's difficult to explain unless youre a writer. Thats what the new shows feel like. Rushed and not thought out. It shows so clearly in the dialogue and pacing and storytelling. It's so obvious that the writing follows a certain formula only up to a point so that it makes sense and is coherent, but is obvious how hastily and lazily it's written.
 
May I add that while I sort of like some of snw, and appreciates it's finale, I can't help but realize that in snw, the characters talk top fast, there's no time to absorb the scene, by waiting on it or showing a few different characters reactions. The style of speaking also isn't detailed, slow, and professional like it was in tos and tng.

Episodes are shorter now. It is just the evolution of TV. TOS had 51 minutes to fill every week, TNG 48. Now we're largely in the 35-40 minute range for episodes.
 
I want Captain Rios back, I can find a way to bring him back plot wise =D.

Man, do I miss him sitting in that big chair. I was so looking forward to Captain Rios in command of the StarGazer for longer than what he got.
 
Episodes are shorter now. It is just the evolution of TV. TOS had 51 minutes to fill every week, TNG 48. Now we're largely in the 35-40 minute range for episodes.

While that is true for broadcast shows, streaming series don't have that excuse. Without being locked into an hour long format, counting commercials, an episode can be 50-65 minutes and not have an issue.

That was actually an issue I had with multiple DISCO season 1 episodes, because a couple of them were only around 35 minutes. (They did get better at that in season 2, at least.)
 
While that is true for broadcast shows, streaming series don't have that excuse. Without being locked into an hour long format, counting commercials, an episode can be 50-65 minutes and not have an issue.

I imagine a 35-40 minute episode is far more economical than 50-65. No matter how talented the people involved are, they still have to deal with the bean counters.
 
Possibly. But when you hear about how much ends up on the cutting room floor, many of them being character beats or expressions, it doesn't make sense to me.
 
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