you know, that guy that was briefly a Putin shill.Shatner's what?
you know, that guy that was briefly a Putin shill.Shatner's what?
I'm not a fan of the Kelvin Films or Lower Decks and I'm iffy on Strange New Worlds.
While we're at it: I also don't like most of the TNG Films or ENT.
If I were a "conformist", I'd love it all. I don't.
and just as a side note, you say you love voyager, ... THAT was a crew riddled with mental problems.and we are supposed to feel bad for them because theyre "lonely" or have "mental issues", and its prominent everywhere. No doubt the actual writer's or producer's OWN feelings are SHOVED into EVERYTHING they "produce", nothing like how it was back then when actual PROFESSIONALS didnt mix their feelings with their business.
There are no facts here, just subjective opinion. Same as with old Trek.So what are you conformists with no facts to explain why new trek is good,
He did that himself a long time ago. As I said in the other thread, research.going to attack Shatners reputation too?
I suppose there's no true fan anymore.
Hey, is your avatar from Love, Death and Robots? What a fantastic series. Looking forward to Volume 4. Wish Netflix would release it on DVD/BD.
i'm familiar with the series, i have been especially captivated by the animations in some episodes, really good stuff. My avatar however is made by myself and AI (stable diffusion)Hey, is your avatar from Love, Death and Robots? What a fantastic series. Looking forward to Volume 4. Wish Netflix would release it on DVD/BD.
Yes.Seriously this is trek now?
Okay, write a script and let us read it.Any one of us here, had we been tasked to create a new trek, especially if it included LEGACY characters, we would create beautiful masterpieces.
They're canon, your opinion is irrelevant.SO yea, we will all consider disc, snw, and picard, to be NOT CANON, and if you want, you can include LD and or Prodigy on the list as well.
That's not how it works but you do you.Ill even consider books canon if we want future content.
The borg are caeliar or whatever. End of story
Nope, all exiled to the dark side of the moon and replaced by bots who like nuTrek.I suppose there's no true fan anymore.
How about realizing that people have different opinions? If you don't like it watch something else, there's enough content out there.How about less peer pressure to consider the new garbage Canon, and more self reflection.
Believe it or not but I liked it for the most part, the only decision in season 1 that I was really not okay with was killing off Culber but I liked the story, loved the mirror universe arc and the characters were all pretty good.Most of you here surely knew how bad discovery was when it came out.
The moment the first few people came in trying to look "tough" by "challenging me, aka taking the side of the talentless hacks of paramount, the rest of you came in mindlessly so easily PEER pressured to copy the opinions of everyone else so you can fit in and be part of the crowd.
I suppose there's no true fan anymore.
Paramount releases garbage and says "you better watch this and like it", and all of you say "yes sir. Please love me. Please like me. I'll be peer pressured to do whatever you say and support you, and insult the real fans anytime I see one, and peer pressure the rest to do so also, just please let me fit in with the crowd and with the times, no matter which talentless hack happens to be running it".
How about less peer pressure to consider the new garbage Canon, and more self reflection.
Most of you here I assume grew up watching tos through ent. Most of you here surely knew how bad discovery was when it came out. Nothing made sense in that show. But look at all of you today. Peer pressured to like these shows just to fit in and get attention.
I don't care if we lived in a world where people would laugh at me, throw me down the spire of commerce on ferenginar, or execute me, I'd STILL get right in the faces of those talentless hacks and push them down in their place and bring back the best of the best from tng/ds9/voy/ent to replace them. But I suppose we live in a world of fear. Everyone wants to.be liked and fit in, and theyre afraid to agree with the person they KNOW deep down is rifht, simply because the challengers supporting the status quo outnumber us (because they were peer pressured into it anyway, which is sad)
I don't care. All of you people can laugh at me and hate me for all I care. Your CONFORMIST "opinions" are irrelevant to me. And I'm willing to bet at least HALF the people.here feel the same way but are just afraid to speak out fearing the onslaught of the conformists coming at them to destroy their online reputation. Anyone here who attacks fans for pointing out their dislike of new trek by trying to destroy their reputation, is a despicable shill. If you really like new trek, use arguments. But all I see is peolle going after reputations to force conformity because there is not ONEreason for anyone to like new trek other than a DESPERATE desire to fit in with the current status quo. Oh how well they exploit people's fear of loneliness.
I haven't seen ANY arguments for why new trek is good. None. Everytime people point out the obvious, we have desperate conformists shills attacking only the persons reputation as opposed to accusation, in some desperate hopes that their owners they're shilling for will give them some bonus points, candy, or invite them to their party or something. Please, explain to us why nutrek is actually good or better than 60s-90s trek. We are waiting.
I know half the people here agree with me but conform out of fear. Nutrek, is bad. And if you believe it's good, enlighten us with some facts rather than being a conformist shill
Right on.i'm familiar with the series, i have been especially captivated by the animations in some episodes, really good stuff. My avatar however is made by myself and AI (stable diffusion)![]()
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It's a TV show. Calm down.
NuTrek isn't better or worse than Old Trek. It's just Different Trek. Like it or lump it. Your decision. Ultimately, nobody cares what you watch. Unless it's to agree or disagree, and discuss, not berate.
The moment the first few people came in trying to look "tough" by "challenging me, aka taking the side of the talentless hacks of paramount, the rest of you came in mindlessly so easily PEER pressured to copy the opinions of everyone else so you can fit in and be part of the crowd.
This is correct.
Or, as the old saying goes, “one person’s trash is another person’s treasure”. Who am I to tell someone else what they should or shouldn’t like?
Then don't watch anything past 2005. Stay away from discussing anything beyond 2005.No its not. NO character from discovery is equal to the worst of the worst from legacy trek. Everytime I see and heard.tilly I want to punch her face. They have no "soul", no depth, no intellect.
Spock, is cheating on his future mate being all emotional in disc and SNW, and this is supposed to be during the time he would have been his logical self? What in the fk? Spock isn't Spock at all. There are so many examples I'd be here for days.
My main strifes are, the characters have no depth/lack experience and intelligence/are arrogant, and, the stories are terrible..just terrible..anyone remember "the burn"? I bet when the moron who came up with that idea, everyone cheered and clapped like he's some sort of mega genius. This is the level of stupidity we are dealing with, and I'm convinced you people are choosing to overlook these major infractions and just deciding to accept it, because you can't accept the reality that our shows have truly been hijacked by talentless, inexperienced, arrogant hacks who have no love or understanding of what made trek great and why it generated one of the biggest fan bases of any show.
I may not like Shatners antics sometimes either, but he lived and worked with Roddenberry..he would be the first one to tell all of you that Roddenberry would find anything after st 2009 absolutely despicable, but now he's afraid to say it since he will get canceled by his own conformist of the status quo fans. Why are people so afraid to call out bs when they see it. So ok some random strangers will look at you with contempt, and they'll think your crazy for daring to stand up to the status quo, but who the hell cares what some cowardly fearful person says or thinks. They keep their mouth shut to fit in, and maybe have a few friends. They're terrified of speaking out and then being attacked not for their facts but their persona just for not bowing down to the status quo.
People have been complaining about how star wars sucks now or how the lord of the rings show sucks, and what do they get? They get blasted online, called "racist" or "sexist" with no basis in fact, all to shut them.up and instill conformity in those daring to agree with their correct factual viewpoints. People are being pressured to accept this nonsense and mediocrity, because let's face it, the people employed in media today are all friends with each other or have some friends above and below them, they all want to retain their positions and they all want to set the standard that they can be as terrible and talentless and arrogant and ignorant as they can be, and yet be rewarded for.it, while attacking those who call out their BS and enciting those on the fence to take their side through fear. If they started firing anyone Immeadiately for being a talentless arrogant failure who's self deluded (like 90% of Hollywood is today at least), they'd suddenly find nearly 90%+ of positions empty, and they'd find themselves fired too.
Thanks to social media allowing everyone to make duck faces and get 1 or 2 measly likes online, everyone has become self deluded and arrogant, and this is DESTROYING the potential for intellectual, deep, creative stories like we used to get before kids deluded themselves to think they're the "deities of the peasants that follow them" ever since they got 3 followers on IG by posting their stupid face making some ugly looking face or something.
Oh, the burden you carry.The moment the first few people came in trying to look "tough" by "challenging me, aka taking the side of the talentless hacks of paramount, the rest of you came in mindlessly so easily PEER pressured to copy the opinions of everyone else so you can fit in and be part of the crowd.
I suppose there's no true fan anymore.
Paramount releases garbage and says "you better watch this and like it", and all of you say "yes sir. Please love me. Please like me. I'll be peer pressured to do whatever you say and support you, and insult the real fans anytime I see one, and peer pressure the rest to do so also, just please let me fit in with the crowd and with the times, no matter which talentless hack happens to be running it".
How about less peer pressure to consider the new garbage Canon, and more self reflection.
Most of you here I assume grew up watching tos through ent. Most of you here surely knew how bad discovery was when it came out. Nothing made sense in that show. But look at all of you today. Peer pressured to like these shows just to fit in and get attention.
I don't care if we lived in a world where people would laugh at me, throw me down the spire of commerce on ferenginar, or execute me, I'd STILL get right in the faces of those talentless hacks and push them down in their place and bring back the best of the best from tng/ds9/voy/ent to replace them. But I suppose we live in a world of fear. Everyone wants to.be liked and fit in, and theyre afraid to agree with the person they KNOW deep down is rifht, simply because the challengers supporting the status quo outnumber us (because they were peer pressured into it anyway, which is sad)
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