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The Terry Matalas as Star Trek Showrunner Petition

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They can say whatever the hell they want. But that's not how television works. Especially a franchise with the importance of Star Trek. They don't just hand off the keys and say "do what you want".

That's according to your own limited perspective. RMB, Popcast, Cullen, Critical Drinker and the others were given the episodes way in advance and were actually informed about all of this.

And they are still in contact with Terry,Chris and all the others, with interviews coming up.

Kurtzman stepped off to do "Man Who Fell to Earth" and had no creative input on Pic S3, according to them. Terry Matalas was given the budget (a limited one) and full creative control of the season.
 
Don't bother. The attitude is Kurtzman is evil incarnate and Terry can do no wrong and succeeds outside of Kurtzman's knowledge.

It's divisive on its face.

Hyperbole, thy name is Fireproof78.

If you're actually so concerned with the divisiveness here, you wouldn't make such silly exaggerated statements as above.

Even under the guise of jest.
 
dont let this clown rope-a-dope you all. Between stupis and I-know-a-guy-who-knows-a-guy they all basically do the same thing, control the narrative by spreading disinformation.
 
That's according to your own limited perspective. RMB, Popcast, Cullen, Critical Drinker and the others were given the episodes way in advance and were actually informed about all of this.

And they are still in contact with Terry,Chris and all the others, with interviews coming up.

Kurtzman stepped off to do "Man Who Fell to Earth" and had no creative input on Pic S3, according to them. Terry Matalas was given the budget (a limited one) and full creative control of the season.
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Kurtzman had no creative input or even awareness of what Terry was doing
No creative input? Plausible for the overall head honcho.
No “awareness of what Terry was doing”? Nah. That’s a fireable offence (a real one, not the goofy “Kurtzman’s been fired” drivel circulating on YouTube channels for years). Full creative control is NEVER unlimited unless you own the whole thing and shop around a finished product. Clearly not the case here.
 
Well continue to bury your head in the sand all you want then.

Until you prove you have a better track record than these guys, who are actually in contact with the production and have proven it, you've got nothing.
I've got common sense and the ability to not believe everything I hear on the internet.

Here's a grain of reality for you. People on those YouTube channels will twist whatever narrative they have to in order to support their viewpoint and garner views for their videos. Don't trust anyone who relies on views for their livelihoods.
 
Hyperbole, thy name is Fireproof78.

If you're actually so concerned with the divisiveness here, you wouldn't make such silly exaggerated statements as above.

Even under the guise of jest.
Hyperbole is my second language. Sarcasm is my first.

More seriously, the idea that Terry is responsible for all the success and Kurtzman didn't have a part of it is hard to believe.

No creative input? Plausible for the overall head honcho.
No “awareness of what Terry was doing”? Nah. That’s a fireable offence (a real one, not the goofy “Kurtzman’s been fired” drivel circulating on YouTube channels for years). Full creative control is NEVER unlimited unless you own the whole thing and shop around a finished product. Clearly not the case here.
No one deserves unlimited creative control.
 
They tried the same thing for Manny Coto for Enterprise season 5, we all know how that turned out.
 
Until you prove you have a better track record than these guys,
These people have been claming star trek is doomed, will be cancelled, Kurtzman is fired since Discovery started.

Their track record has big holes in it for things outside of Picard plot.
 
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David Lynch for TWIN PEAKS season 3 is proof.
I only got into TWIN PEAKS this year. THE RETURN is... something. When I was invested enough to look into the behind the scenes stuff and expanded lore, it wasn't surprising to find the TP fanbase is likely divided into Lynchian and TP/Mark Frost-ish camps.

Meanwhile this thread is becoming a microcosm of the general division in genre fandom that's existed since 2017.
 
Meanwhile this thread is becoming a microcosm of the general division in genre fandom that's existed since 2017. 1999, if not earlier
Fixed that because my experience has never been in a nondivided fan base. I liked Kirk, another friend liked Picard; I like Attack of the Clones, another friend preferred Revenge of the Sith. Nick Meyer screwed up TWOK and disrespected Gene Roddenberry or was that Lucas who raped childhoods over the prequels. Enterprise was the worst prequel ever until Abrams raped TOS.

Yeah, I've seen a lot of division and yelling in my years of being part of fan discussions, in person and online. Let's not pretend this is new. It's not.
 
Fixed that because my experience has never been in a nondivided fan base. I liked Kirk, another friend liked Picard; I like Attack of the Clones, another friend preferred Revenge of the Sith. Nick Meyer screwed up TWOK and disrespected Gene Roddenberry or was that Lucas who raped childhoods over the prequels. Enterprise was the worst prequel ever until Abrams raped TOS.

Yeah, I've seen a lot of division and yelling in my years of being part of fan discussions, in person and online. Let's not pretend this is new. It's not.
I think he's talking about the divisions as they currently are.
 
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