"Blood Fever" is wild!

[spinagogue]

I've watched most of Voyager several times, but never before this episode; and I found it hilariously provocative! I get that it's the pon farr but . . .

Vorik repeatedly threatening to rape B'Elanna?! And Tuvok allowing this shit?! Crazy.

Outrageousness aside, I thought the ep also had some really poignant stuff between Tom and B'Elanna.

 

[Guy Gardener]

He was crazy. Vorrik was absolutely sure that she desired him equally and it was illogical to think otherwise.

Then Vorrik shared his insanity, but she wanted to rape Tom, and then and only then it was Tom who was strong enough to respect B'Elanna as a woman, because he had so much practice thinking about her as a moaning sexual object to grind against, and then doing nothing about it. Of course by that metric, he had never thought about sticking it to the Captain, before they turned into Salamanders.

 

[fireproof78]

Vorik repeatedly threatening to rape B'Elanna?! And Tuvok allowing this shit?! Crazy.

That is one of the biggest oddities of this episode. It's one thing to have the whole blood fever thing but another for Tuvok to go "They are acting on their instincts. I suggest we let them," and standing there and watching as B'Elanna fights to not have someone rape her. I just...wow. And not a good wow.

 

[spinagogue]

That is one of the biggest oddities of this episode. It's one thing to have the whole blood fever thing but another for Tuvok to go "They are acting on their instincts. I suggest we let them," and standing there and watching as B'Elanna fights to not have someone rape her. I just...wow. And not a good wow.

EXACTLY. Well-said and 100% agreed.

 

[Guy Gardener]

That is one of the biggest oddities of this episode. It's one thing to have the whole blood fever thing but another for Tuvok to go "They are acting on their instincts. I suggest we let them," and standing there and watching as B'Elanna fights to not have someone rape her. I just...wow. And not a good wow.

The Alternative...

Boyfriend vs. Fiance to the death.

If Vulcans are sexually progressive, or Mormons, the disinterested Fiance may chose to marry 5 men of her choice together happily, and those 5 guys can probably out fight and humiliate the one dude she was telepathically pairbonded with as a child, screaming about his entitlements.

 

[spinagogue]

The Alternative...

Boyfriend vs. Fiance to the death.

If Vulcans are sexually progressive, or Mormons, the disinterested Fiance may chose to marry 5 men of her choice together happily, and those 5 guys can probably out fight and humiliate the one dude she was telepathically pairbonded with as a child, screaming about his entitlements.

Intriguing but I'm confused about the rules. "Boyfriend vs. Fiance," whom you've said is the woman. That sounds to me like a one-on-one sitch. So what's with the "and those 5 guys can probably out fight . . ."?

 

[Guy Gardener]

Spock vs Stonn.

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T'Pring is referred to as "Property".

If I need to sleep with 5 guys to feel like a real man, I'm not going to be impressed with this one nut job who claims that my daddy traded my ass for 5 magic beans 30 years ago.

I don't get out of bed in the morning for anything less than three hot dudes.

 

[STEPhon IT]

EXACTLY. Well-said and 100% agreed.

I appreciated the fact that Tuvok stayed consistent with his character; uncomfortable as it maybe but the character is an alien and had his own ethics.

 

[Guy Gardener]

That is one of the biggest oddities of this episode. It's one thing to have the whole blood fever thing but another for Tuvok to go "They are acting on their instincts. I suggest we let them," and standing there and watching as B'Elanna fights to not have someone rape her. I just...wow. And not a good wow.

B'Elanna wanted to rape Tom.

It looked like she was giving him a choice, but that option, his agency, was going to go away quick, if the choice for her, is death or invading Tom's petite sensibilities.

Well, her choices were waiting for Tom to engage, tricking Tom to engage, violently forcing Tom to engage, or punching Vorrik in the mouth so hard that teeth flew out of his asshole.

PS

When Tuvok said "Meditation" he meant "Masturbation".

 

[WarpTenLizard]

He was crazy. Vorrik was absolutely sure that she desired him equally and it was illogical to think otherwise.

Then Vorrik shared his insanity, but she wanted to rape Tom, and then and only then it was Tom who was strong enough to respect B'Elanna as a woman, because he had so much practice thinking about her as a moaning sexual object to grind against, and then doing nothing about it. Of course by that metric, he had never thought about sticking it to the Captain, before they turned into Salamanders.

It's not r*** if you're both lizards.

 

[Guy Gardener]

It's not r*** if you're both lizards.

It's only r*** if you're both lizards.

Animals give zero consent.

 

[at Quark's]

When Tuvok said "Meditation" he meant "Masturbation".

Now I'll never see remarks such as 'I spent fourteen hours last night in deep meditation ....' (Flashback) in quite the same light again.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Now I'll never see remarks such as 'I spent fourteen hours last night in deep meditation ....' (Flashback) in quite the same light again.

After 14 hours meditating, you need extra light to see clearly.

 

[The Wormhole]

Now I'll never see remarks such as 'I spent fourteen hours last night in deep meditation ....' (Flashback) in quite the same light again.

In human men, having an erection last four hours is cause for alarm. Even taking into account Vulcans have different biology, a fourteen hour erection has to be a code red.

 

[Guy Gardener]

In human men, having an erection last four hours is cause for alarm. Even taking into account Vulcans have different biology, a fourteen hour erection has to be a code red.

Green.

 

[at Quark's]

In human men, having an erection last four hours is cause for alarm. Even taking into account Vulcans have different biology, a fourteen hour erection has to be a code red.

That would fit in with Chakotay's advice in the next line:
Maybe you should try to forget about it for a while.

 

[Guy Gardener]

That would fit in with Chakotay's advice in the next line:
Maybe you should try to forget about it for a while.

After Suder murdering that crewman for no reason, Janeway would have made a list of the men on board who had to be secretly chemically castrated for the general crew's safety and virtue.

Chakotay might have been put on that list because he kept trying to woo Kathryn with lazy metaphors.

 

[WarpTenLizard]

It's only r*** if you're both lizards.

Animals give zero consent.

Touche.

 

[Oddish]

Maybe if Tom had done the holodeck work, Vorik's problem would have been solved there. It's revealed that Tom was able to make a good enough facsimile of Tuvok's wife that he was able to resolve his pon'farr without incident.

However, it may also be that because Vorik had created that psychic link with B'Elanna, no other release was possible. If that be the case, let's be glad that B'Elanna won the fight. Because I agree, the alternative would have been... unpleasant.

 

[Anna Yolei]

That is one of the biggest oddities of this episode. It's one thing to have the whole blood fever thing but another for Tuvok to go "They are acting on their instincts. I suggest we let them," and standing there and watching as B'Elanna fights to not have someone rape her. I just...wow. And not a good wow.

I keep being reminded of how terribly misogynistic Bermaga-era Trek was and I had somehow forgotten this WTFery was there.

Good Lord.