Spoilers Shazam! (AKA Captain Marvel) - Fury of the Gods: Review and Discussion Thread

[Saul]

Saw it tonight. It was a bit meh for me. It's fine but it's nowhere near as good as the first film. It feels like a superhero movie from 20 years ago. I just kept thinking is this the best they could do? The Daughters of Atlas I read weren't even in the comics and were created for this movie. Why not use villains from the Shazam comics instead?

Anyway, I'm thinking to rewatch some 'Justice League Unlimited' with Shazam in it.

Everyone will be in it except Cavill knowing our luck.

I believe his scenes were cut.

Problem with Billy in future movies is that he isn’t a kid anymore and so the main appeal of the character is gone.

They could go the 'Kingdom Come' direction.

 

[JD]

I don't think the unicorns were entirely CGI considering our heroes rode around on them.

That was my first thought, I know they do use real horses for stuff like that sometimes

I realized this morning that we forgot about all of the stuff with Darla and the kittens..

Hard disagree. The unicorn scene was one of my favorite moments of the entire film.

Yeah, the unicorns were awesome, and gave us one of my favorite lines in the movie, "Taste the rainbow, motherf....."

 

[Guy Gardener]

Is it possible that the reason that none of them seem to be able to access the Wisdom of Solomon, is because as modern people with a modern education... That they are wiser than Solomon?

Solomon was smarter than illiterate hill people arguing over bestiality etiquette.

Big whoop.

 

[JD]

Wow, it just wouldn't be a Guy Gardner post if there wasn't at least one part of it that made me feel kind of uncomfortable.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Wow, it just wouldn't be a Guy Gardner post if there wasn't at least one part of it that made me feel kind of uncomfortable.

These are not the most cultured people.

They cut babies in half.

Not sure what's worse, that they cut babies in half, or that they don't know that half a baby is likely to die instantly?

I suppose there's a way to cut a baby exactly in half, where one half might be viable for a while.

 

[JD]

So we're going from beastiality to cutting babies in half, no discomfort here..
Just to be clear, Guy, I'm just kidding, I always get a kick out of your posts.

 

[Guy Gardener]

So we're going from beastiality to cutting babies in half, no discomfort here..
Just to be clear, Guy, I'm just kidding, I always get a kick out of your posts.

The only other thing I know about Solomon is that he had 500 wives.

The wisdom of Solomon might explicitly be about love making, or the wisdom of Solomon might be about side stepping and avoiding the chorus of 500 women who want to be assured that they are special by remembering when their/your anniversary is.

 

[the G-man]

It was something that happened in the original, but kinda weird for it be considered a 'family targeted/kids movie' with the body count it has. Although I guess a lot is 'left to the imagination' as you're not specifically seeing the corpses of people who most likely died.

Yeah, I haven't seen it yet (putting me in the majority of American movie-watchers) but the trailer seemed almost Snyderesque in a few spots with all the destruction, which I thought a curious choice both for the type of movie, the amount of criticism MoS got for that stuff and even WB's own apparent disavowal of all things ZS.

 

[Set Harth]

Snyder doesn't own the concept of destruction.

 

[DarrenTR1970]

Warner Brothers/DC has moved up the streaming release date on VOD/HBO Max from May 22nd to April 18th.

 

[the G-man]

Snyder doesn't own the concept of destruction.

No, but when you're WB and you're supposedly trying to distance yourself from "the Snyderverse," showing that much destruction in a trailer seems an odd choice.

 

[Noname Given]

Yeah, I haven't seen it yet (putting me in the majority of American movie-watchers) but the trailer seemed almost Snyderesque in a few spots with all the destruction, which I thought a curious choice both for the type of movie, the amount of criticism MoS got for that stuff and even WB's own apparent disavowal of all things ZS.

As far as MOS goes, it wasn't the destruction per se that I had a problem with. It was the fact that Superman didn't even try to move the fight out of the city.

The majority of the Shazam characters being kids, I wouldn't expect them to think / deal with that aspect during a villain fight.

But Superman is on a different level in that regard. That character has always tried to put the protection of human life first.

 

[TREK_GOD_1]

Snyder doesn't own the concept of destruction.

Thank you. As silly as this Shazam adaptation is, the stakes had be raised in this abysmal movie. It did not work, but that was likely the reasoning behind the approach to the sequel.

That, and in terms of destruction in superheroes films, we're living in a movie era where mass death destruction is the order of the day in how many MCU movies? Every Avengers film, the Cap movies, the Iron Man and Thor movies, and on and on.

Part of the movie landscape. The key is using destruction in a way that naturally fits / supports the story, instead of being more loud spectacle.

 

[thribs]

Snyder doesn't own the concept of destruction.

Yeah. Michael Bay does

 

[Set Harth]

The Marvel movies even ended up commenting on their own destruction and making it part of the plot.

 

[thribs]

As far as MOS goes, it wasn't the destruction per se that I had a problem with. It was the fact that Superman didn't even try to move the fight out of the city.

The majority of the Shazam characters being kids, I wouldn't expect them to think / deal with that aspect during a villain fight.

But Superman is on a different level in that regard. That character has always tried to put the protection of human life first.

Yes he does. He takes the fight into space

 

[Set Harth]

As far as MOS goes, it wasn't the destruction per se that I had a problem with. It was the fact that Superman didn't even try to move the fight out of the city.

What made me a little when I rewatched MOS was how all out the military goes in the Smallville battle. They just totally strafe main street! Did they even try to evacuate anyone?

 

[the G-man]

As far as MOS goes, it wasn't the destruction per se that I had a problem with. It was the fact that Superman didn't even try to move the fight out of the city.

That, and in terms of destruction in superheroes films, we're living in a movie era where mass death destruction is the order of the day in how many MCU movies? Every Avengers film, the Cap movies, the Iron Man and Thor movies, and on and on.

The Marvel movies even ended up commenting on their own destruction and making it part of the plot.

Those are all valid defenses of the story point but that's not what I was discussing, which was the marketing of the film via the trailer.

 

[JoeZhang]

So this has completely bombed - the end of the road for this version of the character.

 

[Rich Watson]

So this has completely bombed - the end of the road for this version of the character.

On the other hand it will look like a success when Blue Beetle gets released...