Saru gave a reason in the first episode with the Discovery Refit.
Things I Will Miss About Disco
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It's so Detmer can do even more awesome donuts and burnouts
Oxygen production, fresh food for those who don't favour replicators, an area for botanists to study (we know Starfleet has them), good old conservation and somewhere for people feeling shitty about being in space too long to relax?
Travel.
I will also miss the DOTs.
I just realised since season 3 onwards they are in a lot of scenes in the background just doing their jobs and it's a nice little detail they didn't have to do.
I just realised since season 3 onwards they are in a lot of scenes in the background just doing their jobs and it's a nice little detail they didn't have to do.
I think both he and they will be the stand out memory of the show when we look back in years to come.
Every Trek had a species or character for the casual viewer seemed to rise above the rest. Spock, Worf, Borg, 7 etc.
Agreed, I really enjoyed the Kelpian stories (with perhaps the exception of the Burn Boy), and Saru is a good character made absolutely great by Doug Jones.
I'll add that the 32nd Century worldbuilding had some true highlights: programable matter and tri-comm badges feel like exciting, natural evolutions of Trek tech.
And that the Ba'ul were members of the Kaminar council and we got to see them again and they were not wiped out.
This is one thing that puzzled me about DSC. Objectively, the Federation was still a huge interstellar empire. But they act all sad about it, mostly because a few 'chosen one' planets have left?
This is true but it's also true (as we've seen!) about the stupid antimatter containment designs in TNG.
A LOT of worlds left. Even Earth.
The Federation was down to a couple of dozen worlds when Discovery came along.
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Right, but a couple of dozen worlds is still a huge interstellar grouping! It seems that they "don't count" though, after the loss of Earth (and maybe Ni'Var too). I get it, the EU would be much reduced if France and Germany left together with the UK, but the leaders wouldn't just sit around moping about it. With for example Federation HQ being hidden in deep space... that's what you might expect if the Federation had been destroyed and there were just a few ships left. But they had dozens of planets to choose from, and their Federation membership presumably wasn't a secret!
It's like if the USA was reduced to one state, contact with distant former states had been lost entirely decades ago, and fuel was on the verge of running out. It wasn't over yet, but it seemed pretty bleak.
Well let's keep the numbers straight... suppose there had originally been 150-200 states, and now there are just a few dozen? That's still quite a lot! Admittedly not including the core/richest/original DC/NY/MA states.
Would the federal government really relocate to a hidden naval base rather than simply move the captial to Utah or Texas or whatever the remaining states are? Agree the fuel situation is bleak but that is a problem for everyone.
I could see a government being relocated to a secret bunker if there was a fear that their presence in a city would draw over an enemy that they're no longer equipped to deal with. Earth's so concerned that they're hiding behind a planetary shield and they're presumably more powerful than most of the planets that are left.
I'm not sure that makes much sense if there are still huge, vulnerable civilian populations. We don't get much of a sense of what civilian life was like after the Burn, unfortunately- but life on Earth seems relatively peaceful? We don't see any of the remaining Fed planets I think do we, which is a shame.
Not for the Federation. There were probably close to a thousand members when the Burn came along.
350 according to Vance, if I remember rightly.
