Spoilers Picard Season 3 Soundtrack News

[Timofnine]

Already sold out sadly.

I’ve asked if they will also do a CD.

Also, does the interview segment with Steven Barton imply that we will be hearing the ‘A Busy Man’ theme again at some point this season but in a different context? I do not remember hearing this particular motif so far on Picard. For reference:

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Also heard a lot in First Contact and also Insurrection in varying forms, though never as good as in The Final frontier.

 

[thribs]

The American Amazon has some vinyl in stock.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BZLLZY8S?psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&ref_=chk_typ_imgToDp

 

[Timofnine]

The American Amazon has some vinyl in stock.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BZLLZY8S?psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&ref_=chk_typ_imgToDp

I’m tempted to buy it even though I have nothing to play it on. It certainly looks like a beautiful set.

Can anyone think of a way of displaying this?

Can I convert it to mp3 and put this on my iPhone somehow?

 

[thribs]

Displaying the album? You can buy frames for records.

 

[fireproof78]

Can anyone think of a way of displaying this?

A record frame. My mom displays several vinyls this way in my parents game room.

 

[iTako]

I’ve asked if they will also do a CD.

Also, does the interview segment with Steven Barton imply that we will be hearing the ‘A Busy Man’ theme again at some point this season but in a different context? I do not remember hearing this particular motif so far on Picard. For reference:

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Also heard a lot in First Contact and also Insurrection in varying forms, though never as good as in The Final frontier.

We already do. It’s played on timpani during the opening title card between the main Trek theme and the Enterprise theme, although I’m pretty sure it’s a needle drop from the score for First Contact.

 

[Timofnine]

We already do. It’s played on timpani during the opening title card between the main Trek theme and the Enterprise theme, although I’m pretty sure it’s a needle drop from the score for First Contact.

Oh yes, I forgot, as each episode title shows.

Also, found some good Vinyl display frames on Amazon @fireproof78

Does anyone know how many inches these disks are?

 

[Tom]

I’ve asked if they will also do a CD.

Also, does the interview segment with Steven Barton imply that we will be hearing the ‘A Busy Man’ theme again at some point this season but in a different context? I do not remember hearing this particular motif so far on Picard. For reference:

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Also heard a lot in First Contact and also Insurrection in varying forms, though never as good as in The Final frontier.

Good choice, this has always been one of my favorite tracks.

 

[thribs]

Oh yes, I forgot, as each episode title shows.

Also, found some good Vinyl display frames on Amazon @fireproof78

Does anyone know how many inches these disks are?

They’re 12 inches

 

[Timofnine]

Good choice, this has always been one of my favorite tracks.

Spoiler: Daystrom

Perhaps they can play it over Kirk’s body reanimating. Like in an old western when the cowboy turns up to save the day chewing grass.

Soundtrack is available to download from Amazon on the 20th April, btw. I am not sure about Apple Music yet.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Star-Trek-Picard-Original-Soundtrack/dp/B0BZ39XSMZ

 

[TV's Frank]

Good choice, this has always been one of my favorite tracks.

This short motif which Goldsmith also repurposed through his scores for First Contact, Insurrection and Nemesis (check out the track "My Right Arm") has made other appearances within Barton's score proper this season. It's been subtle and the pitches are each held longer, but it is definitely there. I'm sure once the soundtrack album is out then it will be more evident.

 

[Timofnine]

Here quite an in-depth interview with composers Steven Barton and Frederik Wiedmann in regards to reviving that ‘old Star Trek feel’ with the season 3 score:

https://trekmovie.com/2023/03/29/in...ow-they-are-reviving-classic-star-trek-music/

 

[IronWaffle]

Here quite an in-depth interview with composers Steven Barton and Frederik Wiedmann in regards to reviving that ‘old Star Trek feel’ with the season 3 score:

https://trekmovie.com/2023/03/29/in...ow-they-are-reviving-classic-star-trek-music/

Thank you for posting this. It really is a substantive discussion by people steeped in their craft. They go further into the weeds than I’d have expected (even if I’m hungry for more weediness).

It says a lot about all involved that they pulled in a second composed who was very collaborative just so Barton could focus deeply on the last half hour of the series. It also says a lot that Matalas’s hands-on guidance was part of the collaboration — and that he even chose the cues for the final soundtrack release. All of this is somewhat unusual, it seems, and really speaks to the nature of this being a mutual passion project that survived the meat grinder that is a TV production cycle and budget.

If I read correctly (which I may not have!), the First Contact and Motion Picture cues in the end credits are not modern recordings. I need to revisit the 3-disc TMP soundtrack because the timbre (I’m no musician… maybe the atmosphere?) of the TMP theme feels very different from any recordings I recall hearing. I did immediately notice at the end of episode one that at the very least they hewed faithfully close to the statelier TMP version rather than the TNG one that’s much better known by now.

Anyhow. I’ve spilled more ink than I meant to. I highly recommend others read it.

in my best Columbo voice, just one more thing… I particularly loved this passage of contextualizing how scores have evolved and may be evolving again. They cover it earlier but this is the gist of it…

(Forgive me, but my Imgur link doesn’t want to post. This is a screenshot of the passage I’m referencing.)

 

[TV's Frank]

If I read correctly (which I may not have!), the First Contact and Motion Picture cues in the end credits are not modern recordings. I need to revisit the 3-disc TMP soundtrack because the timbre (I’m no musician… maybe the atmosphere?) of the TMP theme feels very different from any recordings I recall hearing. I did immediately notice at the end of episode one that at the very least they hewed faithfully close to the statelier TMP version rather than the TNG one that’s much better known by now.

It is an edit of the end credits from First Contact, so you'll find that recording sounds much more like what you're hearing in the Picard season 3 end credits. I know we always refer to that main Goldsmith theme as the "TMP theme" but that doesn't always mean that the recording itself originates from the 1979 scoring sessions for the actual TMP itself. Goldsmith himself newly recorded and expanded the theme in 1989 when scoring Star Trek V and then followed that template again for the TNG movies, but still recording that theme anew each time ('96, '98 and '02).

 

[Timofnine]

If I read correctly (which I may not have!), the First Contact and Motion Picture cues in the end credits are not modern recordings. I need to revisit the 3-disc TMP soundtrack because the timbre (I’m no musician… maybe the atmosphere?) of the TMP theme feels very different from any recordings I recall hearing. I did immediately notice at the end of episode one that at the very least they hewed faithfully close to the statelier TMP version rather than the TNG one that’s much better known by now.

You are correct, they ‘remastered’ and cleaned up original recordings. It still sounds great, but I guess that it saved time and gave the same intended result.

The interview also has more about the ‘Busy Man’ cues as well. I’m also trying to search for subtle musical spoilers…

I can tell you that there’s a short synth-only theme from Goldsmith that we’re using in the later episode for a very particular character. And it took me ages to make that sound out of my synthesizer. There’s probably just a patch Jerry had on some old keyboard, but I had to create it to make it feel just like that, and it took me way longer than dissecting an actual orchestral score. It’s a theme played with a very specific synth sound that fans will be able to tell exactly who I’m talking about when they hear it, so I really can’t talk about it because that hasn’t aired yet.

Any idea what this could mean? Is it something that we have not seen/heard yet? Hmmmm…. Spoilers….

 

[TV's Frank]

You are correct, they ‘remastered’ and cleaned up original recordings. It still sounds great, but I guess that it saved time and gave the same intended result.

The interview also has more about the ‘Busy Man’ cues as well. I’m also trying to search for subtle musical spoilers…

Any idea what this could mean? Is it something that we have not seen/heard yet? Hmmmm…. Spoilers….

Yeah, that's a tough one to figure out, especially if it's related to the TNG films... I mean, there is the synth blaster beam and metallic percussion sound for the Borg in FC... in NEM there are the synth swooshes which might be associated with Data/B4...

 

[Timofnine]

Yeah, that's a tough one to figure out, especially if it's related to the TNG films... I mean, there is the synth blaster beam and metallic percussion sound for the Borg in FC... in NEM there are the synth swooshes which might be associated with Data/B4...

I was thinking something like the weird synth sounds in the V’Ger scenes that Jerry scored in The Motion Picture?

I mean like the Dannnggggsss in this track ‘Inner Workings’ for example:

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There were similar sounds in First Contact and Nemesis. I’m guess that the instrument playing these sounds is a synth?

Spoiler: That synth sound….

…could be V’Ger related, well, we have Kirk’s body ready to be reanimated already like in the book ‘The Return’. Perhaps they are doing a similar story, but with Picard instead of Kirk being reanimated by the Borg?

 

[TV's Frank]

It's possible but technically speaking the actual, original Blaster Beam instrument used in the TMP scoring sessions was not a synth sound. It is an analog instrument (the metal beam, the strings, artillery shell and mallet to play it). The similar sound heard in the FC score for the Borg, however, is indeed a synth recreation of that blaster beam sound, and since this season is more about TNG callbacks than TOS, this is what I assuming he might be referencing musically

 

[Timofnine]

I like the sound of this:

Frederik Wiedmann: I was just looking at the minutes for the final episode and I’m counting 55 minutes of music. In one episode of TV.

I am not sure if Frederik is counting the final two episodes as one episode, or if there is actually 55 minutes of music in The Last Generation. It would be cool to be able to select two different audio track options whilst watching, like on old DVD’s - a complete audio experience, or soundtrack only.

 

[Timofnine]

10:15 in to episode 03x06 also sounds like Rura Penthe music. This musical motif has also been in previous episodes this season.

Fast forward to 02:50 seconds in this track below and compare. This track is from an as yet unmentioned composer, btw, Cliff Eidelmann.

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