Even as late as 2267.
Spoilers The Starfleet Museum
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So there is First Contact Day, Federation Day, Frontier Day, and Starfleet Remembrance Day.
So we got: First Contact Day (I have a feeling that may be more of an Earth and maybe Vulcan Holiday, than Federation wide)...Federation Day, for the founding of the Federation...Frontier Day is like may be just like a Starfleet holiday...probably same for Remembrance Day.
(Captain Picard Day should be an official holiday if you ask me...)
Earth probably has like a United Earth Day and maybe a memorial day for WWIII...and a Romulan War related day.
The Federation could have some sort Khitomer Day.
That seemed like a lot to me...but then here in the US we have, in addition to Christmas, Thanksgiving, and Easter, and New Years Day (which is a Federal holiday I believe)...we have...
Memorial Day
Veterans Day
Labor Day
President's Day
Independence Day
Martin Luther King Jr. Day
Juneteenth (I forgot that's an official Federal Holiday now.)
AND...
"Columbus Day" (BS holiday, it NEEDS to change to something else not named after a genocidal murderer and rapist.)
What am I forgetting in the way of Official Federal Holidays...?
So anyway, we have a lot too...
So we got: First Contact Day (I have a feeling that may be more of an Earth and maybe Vulcan Holiday, than Federation wide)...Federation Day, for the founding of the Federation...Frontier Day is like may be just like a Starfleet holiday...probably same for Remembrance Day.
(Captain Picard Day should be an official holiday if you ask me...)
Earth probably has like a United Earth Day and maybe a memorial day for WWIII...and a Romulan War related day.
The Federation could have some sort Khitomer Day.
That seemed like a lot to me...but then here in the US we have, in addition to Christmas, Thanksgiving, and Easter, and New Years Day (which is a Federal holiday I believe)...we have...
Memorial Day
Veterans Day
Labor Day
President's Day
Independence Day
Martin Luther King Jr. Day
Juneteenth (I forgot that's an official Federal Holiday now.)
AND...
"Columbus Day" (BS holiday, it NEEDS to change to something else not named after a genocidal murderer and rapist.)
What am I forgetting in the way of Official Federal Holidays...?
So anyway, we have a lot too...
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BTW...I am siding with the Trekyards guy's theory that Hanger 12 is the Enterprise-D saucer, attached to a new stardrive section.
Would REALLY like to see a Daedalus Class on the inside of the museum, since we are supposed to return to the museum at least one more time.
I have seen a grainy pic of an NX-refit at the museum...but I am not sure if that is the *Enterprise NX-01* or another.u
But I really don't buy that that ENTIRE CITY SIZED STATION is *just* the Fleet Museum. I think that the Fleet Museum is located *at* the station...but that station is, like I said, the size of a CITY...just look at all those windows...that place could hold hundreds of thousands of people, if not MILLIONS...but it's just Geordie and his daughter giving tours to school kids on weekends...???
There have to be...how many rooms/cabins do you think that station has!? It's MANY MANY MANY times the size of Deep Space Nine! It's bigger than many *Starbases*!!
It would take YEARS to tour the place!!
Would REALLY like to see a Daedalus Class on the inside of the museum, since we are supposed to return to the museum at least one more time.
I have seen a grainy pic of an NX-refit at the museum...but I am not sure if that is the *Enterprise NX-01* or another.u
But I really don't buy that that ENTIRE CITY SIZED STATION is *just* the Fleet Museum. I think that the Fleet Museum is located *at* the station...but that station is, like I said, the size of a CITY...just look at all those windows...that place could hold hundreds of thousands of people, if not MILLIONS...but it's just Geordie and his daughter giving tours to school kids on weekends...???
There have to be...how many rooms/cabins do you think that station has!? It's MANY MANY MANY times the size of Deep Space Nine! It's bigger than many *Starbases*!!
It would take YEARS to tour the place!!
It's a big Federation; I think the whole station is the Museum. There's millions of artifacts in it from ships to tech to memorabilia, and there's a lot of research and cataloguing and library data and more that happens there. It's a massive operation much larger than anyone could fully explore in a day or week or even year (an uber-Smithsonian) but that's what you get with a civilization as immense as the Federation.
The real question is why wasn't there a cloud of countless visiting ships just everywhere around it? ...maybe they have to all land on the planet and beam up to it.
The real question is why wasn't there a cloud of countless visiting ships just everywhere around it? ...maybe they have to all land on the planet and beam up to it.
Museums do have to close and let the staff rest.
They can't be run 24/7.
You also need time for the staff to do maintenance / upkeep / changing of displays.
Maybe the place is temporarily closed as they prepare for Frontier Day.
Would a Galaxy saucer even fit through the original Spacedock doors?
We getting into 11001001 territory again?
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Doesn't look like it's going to fit.
Unless SF enlarged the space door of course (that's the simplest explanation).
The old Starship Spotter reference book suggested that, in addition to the upscale Spacedock-style stations seen in TNG, the original at Earth had two of the doors enlarged to accommodate larger 24th-century ships. Unfortunately, we do see all four doors here, if only barely. Maybe they beam larger ships in and out.
Doesn't look like it's going to fit.
There are a couple in Lower Decks too, though it's hard to see them.There's also an etching of one in the Enterprise's ready room in SNW, but it's really hard to see. It's apparently meant to be the USS Essex
https://twitter.com/timothypeel1/status/1527781175703527424
Now bump up the scale of that Constitution to match the size in Strange New Worlds.
Doesn't look like it's going to fit.
Hm...
The internal volume of the Spacedock is massive. It should be able to hold way more than just a Galaxy class and Miranda at the same time.
Given the upper mushroom section with the space doors is about 3 km wide, SF should be able to comfortably house 4 or 8 galaxy class ships inside (if the mushroom bit has 4 sections, then each section could potentially have 2 galaxy class ships - one on top and the other on bottom - though admittedly, that could be overdoing it a bit... so just stick with 4 galaxy class ships inside and multiple smaller ships.
So, the size of the spacedock isn't the issue at all... its just the space doors that SF had to enlarge a bit... and this can easily be done by widening the entrance to go into those sections of the hull that have no windows (aka, halfway into them - see the 'rim' of the entrance of the space doors that has no window? That's the bit I'm talking about)... so its a minor expansion on the space doors and it uses pre-existing space that doesn't cut into any of the windowed areas.
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There's no Galaxy in that chart but you can compare it to the various drydocks.
https://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/schematics/station-chart.jpg
https://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/schematics/station-chart.jpg
Is it definitely the original? Shaw said "the old space dock", and it's possible that it was replaced by a larger one, like Starbase 74 (which the D has been inside), at some point after the TOS films.
That's the movie spacedock (and Enterprise-A) overlaid on top of the Picard spacedock. Seems like they're roughly the same size.
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