Spoilers The Starfleet Museum

[Mr Awe]

I know.

I wish TOS had mentioned all 12. Black mark against the show.

It's no big deal. I'm also fine with the idea that more were built. It was a successful ship. Why not build more?

It just seems like when picking one to include in this episode filled with Easter Eggs, why not use one that would mean something to TOS fans?

Not a huge deal. But oh so simple to do.

 

[fireproof78]

just seems like when picking one to include in this episode filled with Easter Eggs, why not use one that would mean something to TOS fans?

This is not about TOS fans.

It's no big deal.

To you.

 

[Mr Awe]

Looked it up. In the original series proposal, the ship was going to be named the Yorktown. That would've been a cool reference.

First Draft Star Trek Proposal

 

[fireproof78]

Can't use YATI pin...so disappointing though.

 

[Racefuel]

It's no big deal. I'm also fine with the idea that more were built. It was a successful ship. Why not build more?

It just seems like when picking one to include in this episode filled with Easter Eggs, why not use one that would mean something to TOS fans?

Not a huge deal. But oh so simple to do.

There were more than a few TOS Easter Eggs already

 

[Mr Awe]

This is not about TOS fans.

To you.

It's not clear what point you're trying to make here.

Having a TOS Connie is for TOS fans. Who else would it be for?

I'm just saying it would've been a nice thing to do for TOS fans. And simple too. Just give it a different name but literally everything else could've been the same. That's not making it all "about TOS fans."

 

[Brainsucker]

I wonder why the Enterprise E is not there.

 

[Mr Awe]

There were more than a few TOS Easter Eggs already

Did I say otherwise?

 

[Magistos]

I wonder why the Enterprise E is not there.

At what point do you just make an Enterprise Annex? Also, we don't know. We didn't see every ship.

 

[fireproof78]

Having a TOS Connie is for TOS fans. Who else would it be for?

TNG fans, and specific episode call backs.

I'm just saying it would've been a nice thing to do for TOS fans. And simple too. Just give it a different name but literally everything else could've been the same. That's not making it all "about TOS fans."

Well, this escalated quickly..I said nothing like this. I was actually disappointed at the name. I would prefer TOS get some love. It won't though.

 

[cooleddie74]

I wonder why the Enterprise E is not there.

They may rotate the ships in the outer docking rings and the rest are inside the superstructure, parked like active duty starships inside the Earth Spacedock. The 1701-E could well be inside the Museum.

 

[Mr Awe]

TNG fans, and specific episode call backs.

Well, this escalated quickly..I said nothing like this. I was actually disappointed at the name. I would prefer TOS get some love. It won't though.

Like I said, it wasn't clear what point you were trying to make. So, I guess I misunderstood. Sorry.

But I still say that the TOS Connie was there for TOS fans. Seems obvious.

 

[NCC-73515]

Whatever Connie doesn't fit numbers is simply a Sombra.

 

[Soong-type Android]

What was the other Klingon ship besides the Bounty at the museum? It looked like a D7.

 

[Mr Awe]

The Fleet Museum is like Petersen Automotive Museum in LA and I'm sure like all museums. They have stuff on display but also stuff in vaults. And they rotate things in and out.

I mention Petersen Museum because now you can take their vault tours to see the stuff not currently on display. (And it's pretty damn awesome!) I wonder if the Fleet Museum has a vault tour?!

 

[Tuskin38]

What was the other Klingon ship besides the Bounty at the museum? It looked like a D7.

It was a K'T'Inga, it looked like it had Kronos One's paint scheme, so probably Kronos One.

The Fleet Museum is like Petersen Automotive Museum in LA and I'm sure like all museums. They have stuff on display but also stuff in vaults. And they rotate things in and out.

I mention Petersen Museum because now you can take their vault tours to see the stuff not currently on display. (And it's pretty damn awesome!) I wonder if the Fleet Museum has a vault tour?!

The end credits mentioned a USS Pioneer at the museum, but wasn't seen. So it might have been inside.

 

[fireproof78]

But I still say that the TOS Connie was there for TOS fans. Seems obvious.

Fair enough.

I don't. At most a secondary motivation.

 

[David cgc]

Was there a Defiant at the Museum too? Which, I'm pretty sure was in Prodigy as well?

Given all the ships in Prodigy had duplicate names, unless it's explicitly confirmed, I'm not going to assume the real Defiant, Centaur, Thunderchild or (sigh) front-half-Sovereign/back-half-Enterprise were among the ships that were there.

In the old novels the Yorktown was the only other TOS Connie to return to Spacedock intact so that could have been the route they went with this ship. Although that brings up the whole "if the 1701-A is a renamed Yorktown does that mean THAT ship was a new build and not very old and thus the second Yorktown" argument that is rarely worth the time and trouble of getting into.

That bit (from Michael Jan Friedman's "Crossover") has the same issue that the Yorktown-is-Enterpise-A theory does, that we see the Yorktown in the movie. Well, the bridge. And the novel did mention that the Enterprise's pre-refit bridge was fitted to the ship for the exhibit, I can't remember why the Yorktown's wasn't usable, so I suppose it's possible the ship was unrefitted on the outside but was upgraded with movie-era styling on the inside.

They may rotate the ships in the outer docking rings and the rest are inside the superstructure, parked like active duty starships inside the Earth Spacedock. The 1701-E could well be inside the Museum.

Brian Tatosky said on Mastodon that the Akira on the lower level was standing in for the Pioneer, which was having work done on it that day and was inside.

 

[Soong-type Android]

It was a K'T'Inga, it looked like it had Kronos One's paint scheme, so probably Kronos One.

Just checked Memory Alpha. You're right.

 

[Timofnine]

oh gods. What if this season ends with them taking the Enterprise D saucer section and "refitting" it into a new Enterprise

I thought that was the Cerritos?