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Gambling is an addiction. It's also a mega billion dollar business that make poor people worse off. You see people sitting in front of slot machine for 8-10 hours at a sitting just to gamble.
Who thought sports betting would ever be allowed and grow into a $200 billion dollar industry? Kind of like every year an Elon Musk goes bankrupt.
The WWE is nothing but pre scripted outcomes and they are exploring if their matches could legally be bet on. think about the benefit to the streaming services carrying WWE's programing because I assume you would have to place your bet on the streaming service.Does Rey get un masked? Will the match get swerved? Will Billy turn baby face? I'd guess there are a lot of things you could bet on during a 10 minute match.
Where there's money there is money to pay people to support your position. sad but true. and betting on a wwe match is little different than betting on a sport, just another step down the rabbit hole.
If WWE and Sports entertainment pulls off betting on their production and you're Paramount thinking of getting a piece of that pie. It's just another bunny hop to allow betting on an unseen episode of star trek.
How many cups of coffee will Janeway drink? Does Spock get his real brain back?
my fav. Does Dr. Who take over the ship? Will Q stop him?
I don't like the idea of bringing gambling into the home but right now it's a legit issue on the radar.

I know the idea of betting on WWE was derided as being stupid on Marvel’s Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D, through General Talbot. But that was several years ago. The idea isn’t anymore popular now, browsing through the wrestling fandom. But interesting how society has developed since then because capitalism.
 
Alas, there was that lame Ezri/Bashir romance. So Ezri might go both ways, but she's at least amenable to men.

She was also adapting to the Dax symbiont. Meaning she was adapting to, among them, Jadzia’s memories. Meaning she knows of Bashir’s attraction to Jadzia and that it went unrequited.

Ezri might have been just fulfilling a fantasy of Bashir’s.
 
ST:TMP is my favorite Trek film, an opinion I have found to be controversial when discussing Trek with other fans. On the other hand, whenever I do encounter someone who loves TMP as I do, it usually turns out that we have similar tastes when it comes to science fiction books/films/tv in general, preferring more cerebral depictions of humanity's exploration of space than outer space shoot-'em-ups. TMP-ers are a tiny subset of Trek fandom, so we have a secret handshake to identify when we meet IRL. ;)

That works the other way too.

Love of TMP is how we know who to shun.

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Eh, honestly if you try to ground star trek too much, you get something that isn't Trek IMO. People better than me have tried. At a point you get to a point where you're just better off making your own thing.
Eh, I wouldn't call flying cars "grounded".
I also have the strong opinion Trek needs to keep it's "goofy" elements (like beaming, human-like aliens,...). And seatbelts & tactical vests are even "too" grounded for me.
This list is purely based on what triggers my personal sense of disbelief, and therefore night but be applicable to anyone else (thus "controversial")
 
ST:TMP is my favorite Trek film, an opinion I have found to be controversial when discussing Trek with other fans. On the other hand, whenever I do encounter someone who loves TMP as I do, it usually turns out that we have similar tastes when it comes to science fiction books/films/tv in general, preferring more cerebral depictions of humanity's exploration of space than outer space shoot-'em-ups. TMP-ers are a tiny subset of Trek fandom, so we have a secret handshake to identify when we meet IRL. ;)

A unique time and place made it strong enough - audiences of the time were addicted to TOS and wanted to see it on the big screen, heightened after that space soap opera with the laser swords and the lady with the cinnamon bun hairdo that was clearly inspired by "Zardoz", and villain with a snorkel fetish who has a updated-for-modern-audiences-yet-emo Samurai outfit on. But the f/x are so phenomenal that people would understandably have loved watching a 25 hour screensaver of close-ups of NCC-1701's new hull, without water input break (or water output break for that matter.)

But the theatrical version had needed scenes removed. Not just more on Ilia's culture and what the celibacy oath is all about, as it's not explained and most audiences are not going to go buy a comic book on the side that explains it. Wouldn't make a difference if they were discussing "celibacy oath" or "non-chocolate ingesting oath", it's minutiae. Only in TMP it was surely inspired by Studio 54. :devil::nyah::guffaw: <00 hey look, it's the Trek tunic hues*! :biggrin: (Well, almost...)

I will admit that, of the first Trek films, TMP is in the top three of films I've revisited - narrowly eking out TSFS as I can't deny its plot is stronger, even if TSFS had better action scenes. I'm sure my opinion will have changed by 30-April after revisiting these again.

Eh, I wouldn't call flying cars "grounded".
I also have the strong opinion Trek needs to keep it's "goofy" elements (like beaming, human-like aliens,...). And seatbelts & tactical vests are even "too" grounded for me.
This list is purely based on what triggers my personal sense of disbelief, and therefore night but be applicable to anyone else (thus "controversial")

They play it all with so much sincerity that it's easy to engage the suspension of disbelief*.

It's odd; they all stand and get knocked around in opposing directions, regardless of what hits the ship from what side and yet few bat an eye. Depending on control panel type, there will be more complaints rolling in than the result of a bowling ball manufacturing plant at 99.7% efficiency. Even in 1987, I was whinging because the new control panels reminded me of those older home computers' (circa 1979) membrane keypads that were so unresponsive unless you bashed it and, while doing so, making the three year-old look in awe as it knows the tantrums it puts out can't begin to compete to that level of ferocity by comparison.



* Even more so for the tunic hue colors of blue for medical/science, gold for command and navigation/ops, and bright bold red for engineering/communication/securityforcesthatwontuseahuethatblendsinbecausetheyredumb, and so on.
 
That works the other way too.

Love of TMP is how we know who to shun.

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My spicy hot take is I don't care for "The Inner Light." :shrug:

Having come into Trek from ENT, I don't have the feel good nostalgia for this series that most millennial Trek fans do, but when I heard for years what a great episode it was, I gotta say I was disappointed to say the least.

Allison Pregler did a much better in depth episode on this:

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Star Trek IV is my least favorite of the original six films. While I won’t deny OBJECTIVELY it’s arguably one of the best, I am just not a huge fan of “Trek visits our modern day” stories…I want to be in space.

It's some people in funny clothes running around 1980s San Francisco with incredibly corny dialogue. I never saw the appeal.
My spicy hot take is I don't care for "The Inner Light." :shrug:

Allison Pregler did a much better in depth episode on this:

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I agree with a lot of what she says about this episode. It's just some random episode about characters we don't care about. Plus the whole scenario is silly.
 
Having come into Trek from ENT, I don't have the feel good nostalgia for this series that most millennial Trek fans do, but when I heard for years what a great episode it was, I gotta say I was disappointed to say the least.
I never found the appeal. Life in a bottle simply doesn't appeal. Similarly with the Voyager trauma in a bottle episode.
 
I think ST4 worked better back in 1986, when it was all fresh and unlike anything Star Trek had done before.

Like a mashup of The City on the Edge of Forever and TMP.

I find when watching the ‘trilogy’ (TWOK-TVH) that it’s a welcome relief actually. After all the gloom and death in the previous movies. But yeah, out of context it is quite a silly movie.
 
Star Trek IV is my least favorite of the original six films. While I won’t deny OBJECTIVELY it’s arguably one of the best, I am just not a huge fan of “Trek visits our modern day” stories…I want to be in space.

Some of ST's finest entries have been time time travel stories (with commentary of varying degrees) and / or fish-out-of-water tales (with the exception of the crap Voyager pulled, and frankly, the overrated First Contract). ST would be boring if Starfleet's exploration was limited to alien-of-the-week stories. Part of Roddenberry's drive behind ST was to comment on current issues; time travel allows stories to take a more direct approach in that regard, and its worked beautifully--when the stakes were also of great interest / naturally added weight to the plot.
 
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