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Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 3x03 - "Seventeen Seconds"

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2 hours and 54 fucking minutes!!!!! Are you fucking kidding me?! What the Hell!!!!!

Goddamnit. Why the Hell did I volunteer for this?

Hey @TerryTrek next time give us a heads up about how long these things are. I don't mind listening to 10 minutes, 30 minutes, even an hour. But three hours? Come on! Break this shit up into different parts!

Well, maybe it'll be insightful. I can't fucking believe this...
 
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2 hours and 54 fucking minutes!!!!! Are you fucking kidding me?! What the Hell!!!!!

Goddamnit. Why the Hell did I volunteer for this?

Hey @TerryTrek next time give us a heads up about how long these things are. I don't mind listening to 10 minutes, 30 minutes, even an hour. But three hours? Come on! Break this shit up into different parts!

Well, maybe it'll be insightful. I can't fucking believe this...

Haha. There isn't much insight to be gained here. It's pretty much exactly what you probably expected it would be.

It's just surreal to see these discussions being had with the series Showrunner.
 
1. Terry knows there are things that are going to be nitpicked.

2. Riker kicking Picard off the bridge. Terry says you're not supposed to feel good about that.

3. "It's not just about bridge tactics." A man lost his son (Riker) and is now seeing a man who found a son who's rejected him (Picard). Riker is defensive of all the sons and daughters on the Titan. Picard's angry at not having the chance to be a father to Jack and Jack rejecting him. "Picard's all fired up. Let's go fight!"

4. Terry says, "It's messy. It's not 1992 Star Trek: The Next Generation. Which is hard to do. It is admittedly for fans who, including myself, who grew up with these characters, it's hard to see them in this context. It's not the same show. It's much closer to a streaming, emotional... it's messier. And so, I understand that when fans say, "This is not for me," but then I truly have to say don't watch this! Go back and watch Star Trek: The Next Generation. In your head canon, let Star Trek: The Next Generation end at "All Good Things". That's okay. For the longest time, it ended that way for me. I don't want Generations. I didn't like the idea that Captain Kirk died in Generations." "I get it. But if you can roll with it, I think we get to a really good place by the end of this thing."

5. Terry looks at it as Picard is an almost-human synthetic copy. "I just don't see him going "beep-beep, beep-beep, boop-bop!" "That's why Riker says he's still the same man and that's what I think the intention was."

6. Terry said, "What's the last unexplored relationship in the life of Jean-Luc Picard? His son. It felt like [the series] had done a daughter with Soji. How can we have a son that's reasonable?" "You go to Vash, you go to all these people, but the goal was it was a Next Generation reunion. And so in the back of your head, you go: Beverly. But how can that make sense?" Terry went over to Patrick Stewart's house to talk about it and didn't mention his idea about Beverly. He wasn't going to bring it up. Then Patrick Stewart said, "What if it was Beverly?" Terry says, "We never thought he would go there!" Terry told Patrick, "I have to figure out how that would make sense for both of those characters."

7. Terry went to his writing staff and posed the question, "Why would she keep his son from him? The first thing for me you go to is: she lost Wesley Crusher. She let her kid go off into the stars. That's got to do some psychological damage to a person to just let their son just leave her life. Then you start digging into her husband, her mother, and also this relationship. You go back to how harsh it was for Wesley in those early seasons and how he feels about family. It seemed less contrived the more you talk about. It's not going to feel good; it's going to feel messy, but that's what streaming television is and how it evolves. Would it make for some interesting scene work? As you see where this show goes, eventually you can feel good about this again, and you can earn it back."
 
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2 hours and 54 fucking minutes!!!!! Are you fucking kidding me?! What the Hell!!!!!

Goddamnit. Why the Hell did I volunteer for this?

Hey @TerryTrek next time give us a heads up about how long these things are. I don't mind listening to 10 minutes, 30 minutes, even an hour. But three hours? Come on! Break this shit up into different parts!

Well, maybe it'll be insightful. I can't fucking believe this...

Terry Matalas obviously doesn't have anything better to do.
 
It's just weird he does this stuff. I'm starting to wonder if he's the new Manny Coto in more ways than one.
Back in the late-'90s, Ron Moore used to do Q&A with fans about DS9. I think it was through AOL. He'd do it on a fairly regular basis. They're probably archived somewhere.
 
8. Terry on the age of the actor, Ed Speelers, playing Jack Crusher, "He does look older. We looked at kids in their 20s and you're not going to buy any of those actors up against Patrick Stewart and we wanted someone who can hold his own."

9. They talked about having Wesley involved since it's his family too, but Wesley is a Traveller and like a God, so that would take out the drama.

10. "Twitter's a fine example of who's going to come along with you and who's not. He's 23 right? Yeah, wink, he's 23."

11. Terry thought it was important to show a time when Riker had a kid.

12. Someone asks Terry about going back to episodic Trek. Terry says Strange New Worlds does that. This person asks if there's going to be more Star Trek that does that, and Terry said he's not involved with Star Trek right now. He says, "There are many great stories you could tell in the 25th Century that would be one-offs."
 
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And so, I understand that when fans say, "This is not for me," but then I truly have to say don't watch this! Go back and watch Star Trek: The Next Generation. In your head canon, let Star Trek: The Next Generation end at "All Good Things". That's okay. For the longest time, it ended that way for me. I don't want Generations. I didn't like the idea that Captain Kirk died in Generations." "I get it. But if you can roll with it, I think we get to a really good place by the end of this thing."
Good for you, Terry. Nicely put.
 
13. Terry says, "Listen, I have to say that don't agree with everybody on this panel about all of [new] Star Trek. I think that in the case of Star Wars, Marvel, and Star Trek, there can be many flavors of these things. I think it's very helpful that everyone get their flavor. It's apparent that some of these flavors have been missing. Star Trek is a wide swath of different kind of things."

14. Terry after everyone talks about what they think about the rest of New Trek, "I respect all of your opinions about all this. There are many Star Trek creators who do care deeply about all this stuff. I can't agree with you." "I know how you guys come at Star Trek: Discovery and what-not and I can't stand by the things you say about those shows because those shows are equally Star Trek."

15. Terry continuing, "I do wish there was a way for Star Trek fans to come together on all of this stuff. I wish there were another way to speak about how you feel, that there was a tone of Star Trek you wish you saw more of, without disparaging what other people love about those other Star Trek."
 
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