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Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 3x03 - "Seventeen Seconds"

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Quite right. This is Android picard. A lesser soong created him so this android picard is so flawed and now Riker knows it. Lol

I'm surprised Beverly didn't mention it when listing Picard's near death experiences.

"Oh yeah, and then there is the time you actually died and were replaced by an android replica"

Jack knew about it, so apparently it's pretty common knowledge.
 
Picard pushed the wrong buttons with Riker — doing exactly what he had accused Beverly of earlier in the episode. Because he’s a diplomat, and thought that would get Riker to follow his suggestion. ‘Fear of Loss’
At this point, I wonder what is in the Nebula, and why it wants a living Picard brought to it. Moriarty wants a body? Lore? A second great link? The Nebula is clearly made up of changelings by the looks of things.
 
Well now that we have the Changeling reveal, that means that one of our hero's is gonna end up being a Changeling and getting killed. Whether or not the original survives we will have to wait and see.
 
Picard pushed the wrong buttons with Riker — doing exactly what he had accused Beverly of earlier in the episode. Because he’s a diplomat, and thought that would get Riker to follow his suggestion. ‘Fear of Loss’
At this point, I wonder what is in the Nebula, and why it wants a living Picard brought to it. Moriarty wants a body? Lore? A second great link? The Nebula is clearly made up of changelings by the looks of things.

Yup. He hit a sore spot with Riker basically bringing up the loss of his son to get Riker to do what he wanted. A bad mistake and Riker was right it was out of line. Riker has obviously been traumatized by the loss and he did not need to have that thrown in his face on the bridge. Riker needed to obviously get away and get back to work where he's comfortable and Picard ruined it. I'm sure they'll apologize but still it was pretty cold
 
No, Picard is emotionally compromised. He's angry because Jack is wounded, and his life is in danger. At that moment, Jeanluc does not fit to command, and should leave the situation to Riker.

Plus, Picard's maneuver / tactic is also make sense, if there is no wormhole weapon that put their torpedoes back to Titan. And that's, including us, the viewers.
he said it himself in The Battle.
 
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Beverly is....Beverly, and, by that, I mean she's utterly insufferable. I don't really care about her getting pregnant. I accept it even though it makes no sense because that's just the story at play. I accept that, in the 24th century, even someone her age NOW could conceive. The problem is that that would have to be a conscious choice. That would require medical intervention. Beverly Crusher would have been in her mid-50s, post-Nemesis and human evolution is what it is. She COULD have gotten pregnant naturally, but that would make her a stunningly rare occurrence.

Another little issue with this is that, even if she is this rare possibility, the 24th century would let her know. A physical would tell her that she's still able to conceive and she'd act accordingly.

But, whatever, she's pregnant and had a kid. Oh, my God though, the insufferable, emotionally abusive gymnastics she vaults through to blame HIM for the fact that she hid the fact that she had a kid. Since we're not doing anything truly original with this show, we can draw straight parallels to Kirk and Marcus. How did Carol lay it out? "Were we together? Were we going to be? You had your world and I had mine. And I wanted him in mine."

Sure, she's angry about his absence, and, like Picard, Carol believed that Kirk was never going to be the one to leave that chair unless he was forced out. But SHE knows that SHE made a choice. She doesn't play the gaslighting abuser's line of, "Look what you made me do," which is all Crusher does here. Picard had a right to know. Picard had the right to make choices. But, if SHE takes it upon herself to deny him that and make choices for both of them unilaterally, she does not get to blame him for that.

She is the deeply self-righteous bore she always was

Accent: "He went to school in London and couldn't shake it." Really? Okay. LOL.

The Titan isn't much of a ship if "Everything they've got" is 4 torpedoes.

Riker telling Picard he killed them all. Wut? The Shrike tracked you. It never stopped tracking you. With that wormhole gun, you were NEVER going to get out of that nebula. You were always going to end up where you are, or worse. Indeed, if you got aggressive instead of spending five extra minutes debating what to do with Picard, you might have gotten behind them. I don't know what good it would have done, but it was better than all that back and forth on the bridge which was wickedly out of character for both of them. Riker never would have gone 'round and 'round with Picard like that and Picard never would have tolerated it if he had. It was all just padding and dumb padding at that.

I actually liked Worf here and the Changelings are a twist I have some curiosity about, so, overall, for that, this was better than last week's

But it's still not good.
 
It's the Kelvin Timeline Carol Marcus situation repeated. In that timeline she grew up in and/or was educated in Britain, hence Alice Eve's accent. The Prime Timeline Carol Marcus didn't and wasn't.
 
About 6 or 7 years ago I started watching Enterprise in the background at work. I had given up in the second season in its original run.

Boy howdy was it boring. Between season 2 of Enterprise and Nemesis 2002 was the absolute nadir of Trek.

I finished the series but, like I said, it was only because I had it on in the background doing work.

oh I’ve tried to complete multiple times it it since it originally aired and I just can’t get through it. I’m trying again now with a “best of “ guide and I’m still struggling.
 
I just realized something. The Titan firing “everything” they’ve got which equates to just four torpedoes seems awfully similar to the Enterprise-D just firing a few phaser rounds half-heartedly against the Duras sisters in Generations.

And Riker was in command both times. :shrug:
 
I just realized something. The Titan firing “everything” they’ve got which equates to just four torpedoes seems awfully similar to the Enterprise-D just firing a few phaser rounds half-heartedly against the Duras sisters in Generations.

And Riker was in command both times. :shrug:

I expected phaser fire with the torpedoes when Riker said that.
 
Okay.. .. Okay.... She got preggie .. Ok.. Decided not to tell the baby daddy because she didn't want him going all over the galaxy.. Okay.. But.. Picard was SITTING WITH HIS THUMB UP HIS ARSE FIR BEST PART OF 20 YEARS. In the vineyard!! He didn't go anywhere..!!
Victim blaming at its 1000% worse.. Horrible lost kid trope that needs to die a horrific death.. No reason except.. I didn't feel like telling u.. F÷=%..
Shittyist moment in trek..

Rest was good, worf was excellent.
 
Note to self: the baddies did not draw Picard to the nebula. BEVERLY explicitly did. So if there is something wonky / biological / great link it’s a galaxy sized plot hole. Why that nebula Bev??
 
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