Spoilers Is it possible that Chapel and Spock were in a romantic relationship during TOS?

[Unimatrix Q]

Finally finished watching the first season of SNW, which is great by the way

One thing i found really interesting was the mutual attraction and deep friendship between Christine Chapel and Spock and how it got ever more intimate during the course of the season.

While in TOS we mostly just saw Chapel admiring and caring for Spock, with him being really aloof, i think it's really likely they both were in a romantic relationship all the time.

Considering how many private things he kept secret even from his best friends, i think this makes a lot of sense

 

[fireproof78]

While in TOS we mostly just saw Chapel admiring and caring for Spock, with him being really aloof, i think it's really likely they both were in a romantic relationship all the time.

Probably.

 

[Captain Jollydark]

Finally finished watching the first season of SNW, which is great by the way

One thing i found really interesting was the mutual attraction and deep friendship between Christine Chapel and Spock and how it got ever more intimate during the course of the season.

While in TOS we mostly just saw Chapel admiring and caring for Spock, with him being really aloof, i think it's really likely they both were in a romantic relationship all the time.

Considering how many private things he kept secret even from his best friends, i think this makes a lot of sense

Or they got very close to having an affair. I like the texture and nuance just the possibility of it gives to their weird awkward interactions in TOS. It's not just because he's uptight and she's mooning over him. It's because they did something foolish.

 

[F. King Daniel]

I find it really hard to reconcile SNW with TOS. It's essentially a reboot, otherwise nothing short of an untreated mental breakdown would make the feisty, sharp Christine of SNW into the dull, simple Christine of TOS.

I know it won't happen, but I want Christine to ruin that Vulcan boy in SNW.

 

[fireproof78]

I find it really hard to reconcile SNW with TOS. It's essentially a reboot, otherwise nothing short of an untreated mental breakdown would make the feisty, sharp Christine of SNW into the dull, simple Christine of TOS.

Or...losing her fiancé. Grief and loss were actually devasting in TOS, vs. TNG.

 

[Captain Jollydark]

I find it really hard to reconcile SNW with TOS. It's essentially a reboot, otherwise nothing short of an untreated mental breakdown would make the feisty, sharp Christine of SNW into the dull, simple Christine of TOS.

I know it won't happen, but I want Christine to ruin that Vulcan boy in SNW.

That sounds delicious.

 

[Allyn Gibson]

I find it really hard to reconcile SNW with TOS. It's essentially a reboot, otherwise nothing short of an untreated mental breakdown would make the feisty, sharp Christine of SNW into the dull, simple Christine of TOS.

I know it won't happen, but I want Christine to ruin that Vulcan boy in SNW.

I've really adopted the idea that TOS (and its movies) is canonical to itself, while it's not necessarily canonical to 1987-present Trek. Rather, something like TOS happened in the 2260s, there were people named Kirk, Spock, Scotty, etc., but what was shown on the television in the 1960s isn't necessarily what happened for the series that aired in later decades.

The thing is, this is the way Roddenberry himself saw it in the 1980s. Richard Arnold makes it explicit in his infamous Tim Lynch interview.

 

[drt]

I've really adopted the idea that TOS (and its movies) is canonical to itself, while it's not necessarily canonical to 1987-present Trek. Rather, something like TOS happened in the 2260s, there were people named Kirk, Spock, Scotty, etc., but what was shown on the television in the 1960s isn't necessarily what happened for the series that aired in later decades.

TOS is definitely its own thing. The 80s movies don't feel like they're in the same continuity, either. Too heavily influenced by fanon and pop-culture assumptions made in the intervening years.

But on the whole I agree with you, the "Prime Universe" is really the TNG universe and everything produced afterwards.

 

[AmandaSmith]

I know SNW is suppose to be pre-TOS but I see them as alternate universes. More similar then Kelvin but still separate. I predict that Spock will have an affair with Chapel either with or with out T'pring's knowledge which will make him avoid her like we see in TOS. Probably from being ashamed from what he did and letting her in to much. I don't know how they are going to give Chapel her fiancé.

 

[fireproof78]

I don't know how they are going to give Chapel her fiancé.

Quite easily.

 

[BillJ]

I would rather SNW be interesting instead of a slave to what came before. I say this as a fan of the show and a huge fan of TOS.

Peck and Jess Bush have chemistry that would be a shame to waste.

 

[drt]

I would rather SNW be interesting instead of a slave to what came before. I say this as a fan of the show and a huge fan of TOS.

Peck and Jess Bush have chemistry that would be a shame to waste.

Agreed on both counts.

Why waste an episode to establish Chapel's relationship with Roger Corby since it's "supposed" to happen during the period SNW is set? He was barely interesting the first time around. If there's some pressing need to connect the dots, just let it be before the show started.

 

[fireproof78]

I guess I see it as an opportunity. No, I didn't care for Corby in the episode but neither did I care about T'Pring in "Amok Time" and yet this show has fleshed her out in a more positive way that makes her far more understandable, relatable, and dare I say it, sympathetic in TOS.

Why not Corby? It's an opportunity to explore the character in a different way.

I guess I'm hopelessly naive or something in that I don't this is as slavery to what came before but an opportunity for me to go "Oh, I never realized what that could mean." When prequels are done well it gives me that positive feeling.

 

[Tuskin38]

I would rather SNW be interesting instead of a slave to what came before.

Too late.

 

[BillJ]

Too late.

Outside of the last two episodes, I thought the first season was really good.

 

[Tuskin38]

Outside of the last two episodes, I thought the first season was really good.

I just mean half the cast are legacy characters.

 

[Sci]

I predict that Spock will have an affair with Chapel either with or with out T'pring's knowledge which will make him avoid her like we see in TOS. Probably from being ashamed from what he did and letting her in to much.

I could see that. And it would be fully consistent with TOS.

I don't know how they are going to give Chapel her fiancé.

Presumably the same way this sort of thing happens in real life: by establishing her relationship with him, her developing feelings for him, and then them getting engaged.

It's not like real life lacks for people who are in relationships while simultaneously still carrying torches for someone else. Hell, that's Spock's situation in SNW.

I just mean half the cast are legacy characters.

That doesn't mean SNW has to be slavishly devoted to TOS at every turn. They've already engaged in a fair amount of creative re-interpretation.

 

[fireproof78]

It's not like real life lacks for people who are in relationships while simultaneously still carrying torches for someone else. Hell, that's Spock's situation in SNW.

Yes, but we all know that Star Trek cannot be like real life...for reasons.

 

[Sci]

It's not like real life lacks for people who are in relationships while simultaneously still carrying torches for someone else. Hell, that's Spock's situation in SNW.

Yes, but we all know that Star Trek cannot be like real life...for reasons.

Of course, if the SNW writers really want to explore Spock/Christine without breaking continuity or depicting them as cheating on their partners, they could just depict T'Pring and Roger as as ethical non-monogamists who are okay with having a polycule.

 

[valden]

Of course, if the SNW writers really want to explore Spock/Christine without breaking continuity or depicting them as cheating on their partners, they could just depict T'Pring and Roger as as
ethical non-monogamists who are okay with having a polycule.

In TOS, Spock already cheat on T-pring with Leia by that logic.