The Elaine Benes of Starfleet.
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You should see it dance.
She freaking monologued it.
I've heard of this bird. Some random word.
BRIAN, NO!!!!
Two guys in white coats were waiting offstage for him ...
Yes, in the show it obviously cannot be based on the Hyperion Shrike. But I was wondering if the writers were paying homage to Simmons.
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Titan: The "exploration" vessel that doesn't stray too far from the known.
It would be nice to go from Shaw (a Captain who's terrified of straying from Federation space) to Seven (someone who marinated in the unknown for four seasons).
Isn't it in the original Roddenberry notes even in TNG actual explored space inside the Federation is itself somewhere in the high 20s? Early 30s? It's very allegorical to Earth's Seas in that regard. You can have an exploration vessel such as the Titan simply operating inside Fed Space. It doesn't need to start straying across the "border" and potentially annoying some unknown group/interstellar nation-state.
Titan: The "exploration" vessel that doesn't stray too far from the known.
Because that wasn’t his mission at the time. He was supposed to be doing fleet manoeuvres within federation space, not outside of it, the ship probably wasn’t stocked/prepared for movement outside of federation space.
This season has already beaten the first two for me and that’s entirely down to the TNG cast being so important to the story here. I get this show is meant to be about Jean-Luc and his life after Starfleet but is he really such a special character without those around him? I’m not so sure.
It’s a bit like ordering a pizza and only getting the cheese. It’s a really important part of what you want, but you’re missing the other key ingredients.
It’s a bit like ordering a pizza and only getting the cheese. It’s a really important part of what you want, but you’re missing the other key ingredients.
I'd say it's the critical thing isn't it? Trek's always had "key characters" but never a "protagonist" in the traditional sense, and the only show to attempt this was Discovery... before basically ditching the idea after 2 seasons.
Even when we look at key episodes where an actor is basically the only one on screen (In the Pale Moonlight) it still doesn't work without the moments of other characters on screen.
Again, with Matalas taking it on for the final season, we seem to be getting what we should have at the start. Most characters work kind of well on screen... with basically ignoring the previous two seasons. You really can go into this near blind and it still makes perfect sense.
In fact some of it might even work better. Raffi as an intelligence agent works as a good B-plot before her storyline converges. Seven's reveal as an XO of a starship works really well and would've been a super nice "surprise". (though no doubt with her treatment of Jean Luc as a friend scene to some nerds chuntering).
I still think a nice season would've been Picard and Laris' growing relationship and other characters (old and new) coming to the Estate to meet with Picard and ask for advice. Could've even thrown Seven in there asking for advice on a path to take. That would've been an actual character study than the two seasons we did get.
IIRC, it's the Alpha Quadrant itself which is only supposed to be something like 15% explored as of TNG's timeframe.
I don't know. I feel like TOS did closer to that with Kirk and Spock as the protagonists, and the other secondary characters providing some measure of flavor, but not needed.
TNG is far more ensemble so it makes sense that earlier seasons would chafe against expectations.
TNG is far more ensemble so it makes sense that earlier seasons would chafe against expectations.
After 200 years and dozens of Starships, it's only 15% explored?
What have they been doing all this time?
it's nearly 60k light years across. Remember how long it would have taken Voyager to cross the Delta Quadrant at late 24th century max warp.After 200 years and dozens of Starships, it's only 15% explored?
What have they been doing all this time?
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I agree with you on that, and it certainly seems to be closer to the TV shows of the time, where you can reel off long lists of shows in which there were definitely two leads who had the most screen time... The Man from U.N.C.L.E, Adam-12, Batman, Get Smart, I Spy, Have Gun Will Travel, Green Hornet... heck, you can even claim Cartoons had this format in the 60s! Yogi Bear, Top Cat, Rocky and Bullwinkle... you can even argue the dominance of Shaggy and Scooby in Scooby Doo!
TNG really put the Operatic drama in "Space Opera" with its cast.
After 200 years and dozens of Starships, it's only 15% explored?
Turtle the first submarine was built in 1776. In the 247 years since we've explored just 5% of the world's oceans.
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