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Star Trek was meant to be The Twilight Zone, no matter how much fans want it to be Lord of the Rings.

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Unfortunately, it was the "lightning in a bottle" captured by DS9 that really set the stage for that expectation. I think fans forget that DS9 was really a unique and divergent piece of the franchise, not something you can just apply like a template to every future iteration and expect it to work.
 
Deep Space Nine was Better, but Voyager was more Popular.

Enterprise was a shadow of a fart quickly forgotten.

The new era of Trek is in a Bubble that Children can't find.

No children, not future.

Even if Star Trek was on Prime Time Network TV... Kids don't watch TV any more.
 
Deep Space Nine was Better, but Voyager was more Popular.

Enterprise was a shadow of a fart quickly forgotten.

The new era of Trek is in a Bubble that Children can't find.

No children, not future.

Even if Star Trek was on Prime Time Network TV... Kids don't watch TV any more.

I’m not sure I agree. I definitely think kids watch LESS TV than ever, but they still watch. My sons and all their friends watch Mandalorian, for example. If there’s something good out there, they find it.
 
I’m not sure I agree. I definitely think kids watch LESS TV than ever, but they still watch. My sons and all their friends watch Mandalorian, for example. If there’s something good out there, they find it.

Streaming is not tv.

Binging via illegal means, Bluray box sets or streaming is not TV.

The Mandalorian is on a website, which is streaming, so it's not TV.

TV is being forced to sit in front an idiot box at a specific time and date, for an hour, suffer though all the commensurate advertising, and if you need to do plops, you have to wait until reruns in the summer to find out what you missed, all because Cheese is the enemy.

Kids watch media that used to be on TV or seems like it is on TV, but they have an infinitely more usable medium to view it on, which is usually their parents downloading three seasons of "whatever" from Pirate Bay and then putting it on their ipad, but Netflix crippled the idea that people needed to be home by 7 or the world would end.

DVDs and Bluray are almost a dead industry.

Still useful, but not the monster they used to be, after the rental market dissolved.

Blockbuster RIP.
 
I'm sure there's some psychological term/explanation for why people seem to nostalgically look back on hard times with rose-tinted glasses, even to the point of longing for the "good old, bad old days".

Look how quickly the children of Israel wanted to go back to Egypt...
 
I'm sure there's some psychological term/explanation for why people seem to nostalgically look back on hard times with rose-tinted glasses, even to the point of longing for the "good old, bad old days".

Look how quickly the children of Israel wanted to go back to Egypt...

As I get older I'm realizing how strange I am in that I just don't really feel nostalgic. Maybe it's because so much of my childhood/teen years just make me cringe even all these years later.
 
Don’t you think that’s a good thing?

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Sea Quest DSV...

They went to the future... And in all of America there was one boy and one girl left alive, and they were gaming. They were piloting mechs from their bedroom and fighting each other, for points, that mean nothing. The Seaquest people said "please bone" and locked them into a room together. They broke out and went back to their consoles to game, because sex is stupid, and babies are dumb.

320 million Americans had died out in less than a century because they would rather play video games than repopulate.

Family time in the living room with the TV means 70 percent of the time watching crap some other family member decided that that is what you watch tonight, unless you're Dad, and then you can veto, or you're mum and you can pass out with a cup of wine spilled on your crotch.

It's awful, but it's how your family becomes your family, if everyone does not have their own phone with everything they want to watch on it.

Family is shared trauma.

You don't get shared trauma if everyone is bolted into their bed room, watching their own shit, or gaming.
 
I guess we cling to things because of the feelings they bring back to us, even those not directly about the thing itself.

My youngest brother was born prematurely when I was 9, and though that was rough for my parents, I remember with fondness dancing around the living room to Rankin Family music my dad played while my mom visited the NICU, as well as riding back and forth to the children's hospital at night to drop mom off and pick her up again. Sometimes I remember how it felt when I stand near my open bedroom window in the evening.
 
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Sea Quest DSV...

They went to the future... And in all of America there was one boy and one girl left alive, and they were gaming. They were piloting mechs from their bedroom and fighting each other, for points, that mean nothing. The Seaquest people said "please bone" and locked them into a room together. They broke out and went back to their consoles to game, because sex is stupid, and babies are dumb.

320 million Americans had died out in less than a century because they would rather play video games than repopulate.

Family time in the living room with the TV means 70 percent of the time watching crap some other family member decided that that is what you watch tonight, unless you're Dad, and then you can veto, or you're mum and you can pass out with a cup of wine spilled on your crotch.

It's awful, but it's how your family becomes your family, if everyone does not have their own phone with everything they want to watch on it.

Family is shared trauma.

You don't get shared trauma if everyone is bolted into their bed room, watching their own shit, or gaming.

I’m still not seeing how the positives are outweighed by the negatives. I work a lot. If I had to be at on the sofa at a certain time in a week to see a show, I’d never see it.

Times change. I’d never want to go back to watching shit I don’t really want to watch because that’s all that’s on and missing stuff I do want to see because of my schedule.
 
With the exception of Murdoch Mysteries (on and off), news and sports, I watch DVDs, particularly older TV shows.

Watched lately
* Perry Mason (with Raymond Burr)
* I Love Lucy, The Lucy Show, Here's Lucy
* Gunsmoke
* Everybody Loves Raymond
 
I’m still not seeing how the positives are outweighed by the negatives. I work a lot. If I had to be at on the sofa at a certain time in a week to see a show, I’d never see it.

Times change. I’d never want to go back to watching shit I don’t really want to watch because that’s all that’s on and missing stuff I do want to see because of my schedule.

Oh, this is definitely a golden age.

A golden age for individuals as families die.

Case in point, Cynthia and Garth, from their avatars, are obviously identical twins who forgot they are related, probably because of a dead living room.
 
@Guy Gardener

I watch great shows on a number of streaming services with my wife. Doubtless in the future I’ll watch them with my kids too.

The Age of Knee-Jerk Hyperbole is upon us it seems. Meanwhile, Families are doing fine.

I guess oldsters had the same panic when radio took over TV…

“Families b’aint what they used to be… We used to sit around the radio in a huddle and have a shared hallucination of what things in the story look like… Now we have this new-fangled “Tel-Ur-Vishun” things have never been the same”
 
I think it was a mistake to kill off Cristobal Rios.

If it was me, I already have a way to bring him back and wisk him back from the past into the present for new adventures.
 
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