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Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 3x01 - "The Next Generation"

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I didn't read this thread before I watched and... Wow, I was so swept along with it that I missed so much you guys picked up. How it mirrors events in TWoK in regards to aging and the reveal of a son. I feel I can watch it again and enjoy it on a whole new level.

I love the movie themes and In The 25th Century and mushroom starbases. I love how they've really consciously lent into the movies.

I want more of it. Now.

I was freaking bummed they didn't release two episodes at once. And I kept checking how much time was left in episode because I did not want it to end.
 
The lighting thing is so strange because the scenes on the Stargazer in season 2 didn’t look anywhere near this dark. It’s ostensibly the same set, except they like… moved a couple of chairs or something, yet you can’t see shit this season.

Maybe it’s supposed to be a thematic choice, but there’s way to shoot stuff like this where you can still make out the details.

It might also be that picard and Riker got on board during the night shift. The lights go down when it gets later to simulate Night and Day. Though all of kurtzman trek seems to be this way. Even SNW while very bright everywhere the bridge seems to be the darkest area of the ship.
 
It's mimicking the films, Both TNG and TOS films preferred dark lighting for some reason.
yes, and it was already annoying, but not to this extremes.

I wondered of what we're supposed to think of Riker's pull within Starfleet between seasons 1 and 2. Riker has gone from being able to summon a fleet of dozens of ships to now unable to get even his former command to alter course as a favor. Has something happened?
I’m sure that if they went to Starfleet with the distress call they would get a ship in no time (just like in season 1), but they can’t, as Beverly warned them not to.

I haven't gone through all 36 pages of this thread, so I don't know if this has been brought up. Concerning Jack Crusher: I'm wondering if he's either some kind of Borg, or has Borg tech in him. There must have been a reason Bev was playing that specific ship's log entry. I'm sure it wasn't just for old time's sake. It would explain why someone is hunting them down
Easiest explanation, she was reviewing the hellbird incident to prepare the encoding.
 
I was afraid at first that this would end up as just the fanwank to end all fanwanks, and the first scene after the teaser with Picard reminiscing about the past with Laris almost looked like it would to confirm my fears at first. But in retrospect, I liked the nostalgic touches popping up everywhere.

Special mentions to the title card with Jerry Goldsmith's rendition of the Alexander Courage fanfare transitioning into Jeff Russo's Picard theme, then the scene continuing with the camera slowly zooming off the famous Enterprise-D painting with the two musical styles blending into each other. Overall, Steven Barton's score seems to be an amalgam of Jerry Goldsmith's and James Horner's cinematic styles lending the production a nostalgic retro feel, taking a few cues introduced by Russo wherever appropriate. It worked especially well for me with Picard and Riker's ruse on the Titan-A, where Shaw and Seven ended up mirroring the roles of Styles and Scotty from The Search for Spock. Shaw, of course, goes out of his way to prove himself an asshole for the sake of being an asshole at any opportunity. Question is, is he in on the conspiracy or is simply someone whose obstructive tendencies would inadvertently play into their hands?

As Picard was holding the Ressikan flute and talking wistfully about old friends and fond memories, the soundtrack played Anij's theme ("New Sight" from Insurrection. It wasn't the only leitmotif from that movie, and when Beverly called him on his old combadge, the soundtrack took some cues from the "conspiracy" theme that originally played when Picard and Data discovered the recreated Ba'Ku village inside the holoship. Maybe because of the Insurrection connection, the ship that accosted them at the end also reminded me of Son'a designs, so who knows. We also had First Contact references, most obviously in the ending theme and Picard unlocking the secure channel with his security access code from that movie.

Poor Raffi almost had me convinced she legitimately fell off the wagon again. I was glad to find out she's only undercover, but it seems like Starfleet Intelligence hasn't become any nicer to their undercover operatives since we last saw O'Brien on Farius Prime. I wonder if her mysterious handler is legitimate or if she's being misled (as of typing this, I haven't read any of the spoilers about it yet). And of course, I guess we will soon find out how the quantum tunneling technology relates to Beverly's predicament. As for her, I think the usage of Hellbird, that Picard specifically doesn't know, as a code phrase, is a sign that she deliberately wanted Picard to get the rest of the Enterprise-D crew involved.

All in all, this episode was a terrific opener for the season, even if it felt rather like simply setting up the stage for later. I don't think I remember an episode from the Kurtzman era where the fact that this is but the first act of a ten-hour movie could be seen this easily. That wasn't to the episode's detriment, however. If anything, it makes me even more excited for the next hour.

Lastly... M'Talas Prime? Oh, Terry, you rascal.
 
M’Talas Prime is something I and my friend would have put in a home movie Larping super 8 before the word larping. L’nch Prime. Good grief. And I hadn’t noticed that till coming here.
 
I never understood why she kept the Seven name. Annika sounds way better

That's not who she's been for pretty much her entire conscious life. Would you accept someone calling you a name you had before your earliest memory (probably when you were 4 or 5) because it "sounds better."

From her POV the only name she's had is Seven. "Making" her go by Annika is insulting to her and, really, shouldn't have even been an option or something she's even connected to.
 
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It really is a shame they didn't bring the crew back together before this last season. I really enjoyed seeing Riker and Picard on a mission together. Riker even did his flashlight thing. They bantered the entire episode. It was really quite excellent. During season one when Picard visited Riker abd they were sitting by that lake it just seemed depressing and the end. I want to see my heroes in action together not talking about pizza at a barbeque. Now that they finally are bringing all of our heroes back together this one season is it. Would have loved to see 3 seasons of the old crew and they would have all been 4 years younger. But nooooo Patrick had to have his way and experiment. It failed. It was depressing. Why would I find a story about his childhood and his mother's suicide interesting? They spent a couple episodes in that stupid chateau. That's not star trek. I wish they would have kept his past the way it was. Why didn't his older brother ever mention it to him. I mean come on.Total crap. I hope this season turns out better.
 
Sigh, just like how my mom wonders why I use my real (girl's) name when the boy's name she gave me sounds so much better.

That made me think... with all of Shaw's Wolf 359-induced anti-Borg bias, his treatment of Seven, in a way, reads similarly to deadnaming a trans person to me. Even if being a Borg or an XB is not what she has chosen for herself, Shaw is definitely deliberately denying her identity as one here.
 
And he didn’t have time to set them up in better quarters. Could he have gotten them something a little nicer? No doubt. But he’s making a point to them (along with the dinner) that he didn’t get where he is today by kowtowing to the upper echelon who just want to use his ship for nefarious purposes. He has a right to be a dick.

He could have put them in a HoloDeck programmed with a nice hotel or at least VIP quarters.
 
M’talas Prime isn’t new. It was mentioned in Enterprise over 20 years ago

That was a "Dawn(ENNT)" reference? I missed that!

It was never seen in the episode, just talked about by Trip and he mentions the planet's ringed moons.
 
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As for when Crusher got knocked up, the S2 TNG hiatus folks ate patently ridiculous. So then she abandons the kid for the next 6 years of TNG and no one knows about it?

Pic 3 in 2401 or later. TNG 2 was 2365. That kid ain't 35. Nemesis was 2379. Has to be AFTER Nemesis.
 
I'll give the episode a re-watch tonight or tomorrow, maybe being in a better mood (was a bit ticked last night) it'll click with me better?

I dunno. Aspects of it seemed good but some of it just aspects of "NuTrek" I don't like. (Darkness, characters acting like miserable assholes.)
 
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