Going all the way back to TOS, the mix is really important. You can't do camp and silly every week, but you also can't do serious / edgy every week either. Even the movie series got this right (TWOK to TVH etc)
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Going all the way back to TOS, the mix is really important. You can't do camp and silly every week, but you also can't do serious / edgy every week either. Even the movie series got this right (TWOK to TVH etc)
Even ENT had "North Star" and DSC Season 1 gave us "Magic to Make the Sanest Man Go Mad." So 21st century Trek CAN do more silly fun when it sets its mind to. Balance works if you attempt it.
Hold on. Was "Is There In Truth No Beauty?" in the list @Richard S. Ta had?
If so, that's NOT an episode that I consider to be mediocre. It's an episode that I consider to be super-trippy visually, but I didn't think too much of with the story. BUT I was much younger the last time I saw that episode...
... AND after having seen these two guys react to it:
I have to give it another look.
If so, that's NOT an episode that I consider to be mediocre. It's an episode that I consider to be super-trippy visually, but I didn't think too much of with the story. BUT I was much younger the last time I saw that episode...
... AND after having seen these two guys react to it:
I have to give it another look.
Indeed. And to me, the only flaws in the Harry Mudd episodes of DSC is that the tone is too dark.
Because of the timeframe of the novel I'm writing, I have some old calendars out as reference material. Old Star Trek TOS calendars. Including the one (1987, I think) where the stars pick their favorite episodes. There's a page (I think it's December) for Roger C. Carmel, and his assessment of Mudd, that he's a mostly harmless (albeit very dishonest) rogue who would never intentionally kill or maim anybody, pretty much agrees with my own.
And I agree with "Lord Garth" on "Is There In Truth No Beauty." It's a bit soapy, but not bad. And it inspired a truly outstanding novel (that got one of my vanishingly rare "Outstanding" votes on its review thread) by CLB.
Who is Gorgon? What is he and what does he want from the children? Well according to Spock's history tapes and those left by Professor Starnes on Triacus...he was the last of a group of marauders who caused death and destruction across Epsilon Indi apparently! 
I think it was pretty sad when the children started crying and realised they had lost their parents on that nasty little planet, murdered by a thing who looked like spaghetti!
JB
I think it was pretty sad when the children started crying and realised they had lost their parents on that nasty little planet, murdered by a thing who looked like spaghetti!
JB
My only issue with Rascals is the Ferengi are as dumb as a box of hammers here. Admittedly, TNG never used Ferengi well once, even after DS9 showed them it was possible, but still.
I see your points about "Rascals" being 'turn your brain off' fun, like DS9's "ONE LITTLE SHIP". The former doesn't do it for me, but the latter actually does.
I think the reason is twofold... first, in the beginning, Sisko and Kira are just laughing at the idea of them being shrunk. It was the writers' way of telling the audience, 'we know this is ridiculous, we acknowledge it, we own it, but we're going to do it, so please just stick it out with us'.
And second, the Defiant was taken over by a credible threat... the Jem'Hadar. And there was a nice little philosophical difference between the Alpha and Gamma Jem'Hadar (which we never saw again, sadly), so there's some real worldbuilding.
While I still can't get behind "Rascals" like you guys, I can understand why you do like it. Thanks for the insight.
I'll push back lightly because it isn't turn my brain off. It's more like a 90s style kid's comedy that I liked, like "3 Ninjas" or "Home Alone." It's absurd but I think that is built in to the premise of the episode. Which probably falls outside what many want from TNG. The heart to heart and the ending with Guinan and Ro are still among my favorite scenes though.Good character work.
I can't imagine that Harry ever pulled a trigger but he was certainly OK with putting people in harm's way to save his own skin and if it only worked for Harry, well the galaxy is a rough place.
Cyrano Jones was a loveable rogue. Harry Mudd was a sociopath.
80 dudes took a ship they built, while they ruled a third of Asia, or they stole from America, when they knew the tech was shit and it was a 99 percent chance that they would NEVER reach a prospective colony world, and therefore die in space.
What does SS stand for?
Were the controls in English, Hindi or Chinese?
Were the Enterprise crew so drunk on their universal translator that are shite at anthropology?
Meanwhile, 2 billion Romulans and their possessions, shifted their empire 400,000 light years yonder comfortably, and then subjugated a good deal of unknown space from where they lay their head.
Different.
I know a lot of this was covered in various books and such. Was any of that ever on screen?
That's over five times farther than Voyager was flung.
In a straight line.
Moses went in circles for 40 years.
If he had walked in a straight line, he may have discovered Australia.
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Now that's a movie.
Take out a few 0s, and that estimate would be more accurate.
20,000,000 Romulans?
The Romulan neutral zone is a few hours from earth at warp 9.9 in First Contact, which probably 80 years at Sublight speed, but if chronos and Vulcan are 5 days away at warp 5, that's about 16 light years, then the Romulans are probably the same.
I exaggerate some times.
The easiest way to move 2 billion people 16 light years is to hollow out a few moons, which is a job that could take generations.
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