Stuff that make you wonder but not own thread worthy

[at Quark's]

Would there be some Starfleet regulation about not interfering with other people's replicator orders?

Suppose I have a short break, walk up to the replicator and order some vegetable soup bouillon , only to have it spoiled by Ensign Pesterface, who just happened to walk by and yell 'with an extra chocolate infusion!'.

 

[Oddish]

Or you could just pour the boullion on Pesterface's head, and extract a more amusing form of justice.

But yeah, probably. As well as tampering with the replicators to make them produce the wrong stuff.

 

[at Quark's]

As well as tampering with the replicators to make them produce the wrong stuff.

I've been watching some old Columbo's lately. I could very well see him do such an episode, him proving that the replicator was tampered with. (' Oh, Ensign, I almost forgot! Just one more question ...' )

 

[Oddish]

It's more something Mrs. Columbo would do, given who plays her.

"I ordered coffee, black, from that replicator, but it supplied a mug of coffee with cream, sugar, and cyanide..."

 

[Farscape One]

Funny you mention COLUMBO. Rene Auberjonois patterned some of Odo's behavior after him.

 

[somebuddyX]

I wasn't a huge fan of the Kelvin timelines use of stardates but I get they make sense to a new audience more and were more logical than the usage of TOS's and TNG's combined. But it's funny reading Gene Roddenberry's 1986 notes that he wanted to introduce a similar thing there.
The format for a stardate is now the year, followed by a decimal point, followed by the month and the day. Example: 487.0720 is the 487th year of the current millennium; the date is July 20th. Our characters would refer to it in dialog as "Stardate 487 point oh-seven twenty." For script purposes, the current year of the series is 487.

I wonder if this is something that went along for a while. If they had it mind while writing drafts of "Farpoint" where Data says he was from the class of '78 that would mean he was only in Starfleet for 9 years. It makes sense for the Enterprise-G they originally wanted to use, presumably a couple of centuries after Kirk's mission, not just a hundred years.

 

[Laura Cynthia Chambers]

So I'm guessing we're hearing UT translated versions of all characters anyway which would explain why characters from other countries have no accent (but for some reason the UT chose slightly different settings for Picard and Troi).

If all of the shows are just us watching a holo-production (non-interactive), then whatever the show is dubbed with for other language speakers, or the original English, if that's how we watch it, is the holo-program's UT dubbing.

 

[somebuddyX]

I wonder how Tom Riker would have regarded Erik Pressman. I feel like if both ended up in prison for doing things that were illegal but in their own eyes necessary for the safety of the colonists/Federation that if they met they'd have more common ground than Will and Pressman ended up with. Does this sound believable?

 

[Mojochi]

I wonder how Tom Riker would have regarded Erik Pressman. I feel like if both ended up in prison for doing things that were illegal but in their own eyes necessary for the safety of the colonists/Federation that if they met they'd have more common ground than Will and Pressman ended up with. Does this sound believable?

I imagine the sting of having taken actions that directly killed nearly a whole crew would still sour him on Pressman

Plus, you kind of have to assume Tom got subpoenaed in the coming courtmartial of Pressman, where all the truth came out, which made much clearer just how Riker following Pressman aided in the loss of ship & crew, hence why Will is pretty torn up about it thereafter

I actually like to believe that trial might've been another straw on the camel's back of Tom going down the path to never wanting to take Starfleet orders ever again.

He already struggled with it in Second Chances, seeing his doppelganger reaping the benefit of all his sacrifices. Losing Deanna probably didn't help his attitude, & getting dragged into Will's Pegasus whistleblowing had to make matters worse for him too

No, IMHO, Pressman is the exact thing in Starfleet that a guy on the path Tom Riker was on would find wrong enough about it to turn on it. I kind of actually think Tom is still a good person, good enough to know that Pressman isn't.

 

[somebuddyX]

I imagine the sting of having taken actions that directly killed nearly a whole crew would still sour him on Pressman

Plus, you kind of have to assume Tom got subpoenaed in the coming courtmartial of Pressman, where all the truth came out, which made much clearer just how Riker following Pressman aided in the loss of ship & crew, hence why Will is pretty torn up about it thereafter

I actually like to believe that trial might've been another straw on the camel's back of Tom going down the path to never wanting to take Starfleet orders ever again.

He already struggled with it in Second Chances, seeing his doppelganger reaping the benefit of all his sacrifices. Losing Deanna probably didn't help his attitude, & getting dragged into Will's Pegasus whistleblowing had to make matters worse for him too

No, IMHO, Pressman is the exact thing in Starfleet that a guy on the path Tom Riker was on would find wrong enough about it to turn on it. I kind of actually think Tom is still a good person, good enough to know that Pressman isn't.

Those are great points! I think I was too focused on his actions in developing the phasing cloak that I didn't even think about how many people got killed in using it. I still like the idea of them meeting up sometime after the Maquis got wiped out and having to work together but Tom wouldn't be blinded about who Pressman is. I just keep having a scene of Terry O'Quinn and Frakes acting together again in my head.

 

[somebuddyX]

I guess this is more DS9/Voyager, but what if in the Mirror Universe they had Mirror B'Elanna as a full Klingon who was Worf's wife? Would that be weird?

 

[Oddish]

Or half-Klingon, but she acts fully Klingon; it's her human side that she rejects...

 

[somebuddyX]

Or half-Klingon, but she acts fully Klingon; it's her human side that she rejects...

Oh yeah, that's even better!

 

[at Quark's]

I guess this is more DS9/Voyager, but what if in the Mirror Universe they had Mirror B'Elanna as a full Klingon who was Worf's wife? Would that be weird?

Not necessarily weird, but it would give me the feeling that the Fleet must comprise 300 persons or so.

Besides, what type of ship would that be B'Elanna is serving on? A Klingon vessel? The Terran Empire has been defeated and enslaved for 80 years or so.

 

[Oddish]

Same one Worf is on. Maybe Miral (mother, not daughter) had a thing for Terran man-slaves, and B'Elanna was the result. So she's Worf's woman, but kind of a pariah because of her human blood, which she downplays by being super-Klingon.

 

[Mojochi]

Those are great points! I think I was too focused on his actions in developing the phasing cloak that I didn't even think about how many people got killed in using it. I still like the idea of them meeting up sometime after the Maquis got wiped out and having to work together but Tom wouldn't be blinded about who Pressman is. I just keep having a scene of Terry O'Quinn and Frakes acting together again in my head.

Oh I like the idea. Maybe get Ben Maxwell in that mix too. Him I thought got a raw deal, because he was actually right, & I agree with your point, that Tom Riker probably wouldn't place much stock in the Treaty of Algeron, prohibiting cloaks, nor would a LOT of Starfleet officers

That's why they got as far as they did with it. Pressman's crew were apparently onboard with violating the treaty in itself, or they'd never have gone along with it in the 1st place. It was only after they realized the danger using the device posed to the safety of the ship & crew that they challenged him on it & ultimately mutinied. I figure at some point they realized there was a risk, every time they used it, that the plasma relays would become increasingly more likely to blow out, but even with that risk, Pressman refused to end experimentation. Tragically, during the mutiny firefight, no one monitored the relays adequately, while they were cloaked, & that led to the Pegasus destruction. This abandonment of his crew's safety would be unforgivable to most any moral officer, of which I'd say Tom Riker is still one.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

Funny you mention COLUMBO. Rene Auberjonois patterned some of Odo's behavior after him.

The man with the dirty mac who discovered America?

As for Pressman: If he wasn't working for Section 31 before the Pegasus thing went down, he sure as hell would be after. They'd snap him up.

And Maxwell? He was LUCKY, not right. If you walk out your front door, shoot a random person in cold blood, and it turns out they were a serial killer, are you "right"? No? Then neither was Maxwell.

 

[Oddish]

As for Pressman: If he wasn't working for Section 31 before the Pegasus thing went down, he sure as hell would be after. They'd snap him up.

If I were S31, I'd get the schematic for the phased cloak and have a team of techs quietly work out the kinks, then make a bunch of them. That way, the moment the treaty with the Romulans goes inactive, they can have the whole Federation fleet outfitted very quickly.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

I doubt that Starfleet will ever try the phasing cloak again. It's just not worth the risk.

 

[tomalak301]

I have a question that I haven't seen brought up. How do they film the poker scenes? When you have Data Shuffling do they still stack the deck to make the right combinations for the scene or do they adapt whatever card is shown to the scene. I know they wanted to do the combos of 3 for Cause and Effect, but what about the other scenes. That's a lot of work to stack the deck to come up with the right combinations for a scene. Maybe why they didn't show the Cards that much.