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DC Movies - To Infinity and Beyond

Christopher said:
Snyder was not the equivalent of Feige. Feige is the president and chief creative officer of Marvel Studios. I believe his closest DC/WB counterpart was Geoff Johns, although Johns left his post in 2018. I'm not sure who took his place. But Snyder was not in charge of the whole studio; he was just one of the directors and producers working together to set its early direction.
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I have amended my post, maybe before you quoted it, and i said exactly the same.
 
They did go through some candidates before landing on Gunn and Safran including Dan Lin who walked after they wouldn’t purchase a stake in his production company. Then there’s Walter Hamada who I don’t know exactly what he did there but was certainly a source of ire for Ray Fisher.
 
Christopher said:
Snyder was not the equivalent of Feige. Feige is the president and chief creative officer of Marvel Studios. I believe his closest DC/WB counterpart was Geoff Johns, although Johns left his post in 2018. I'm not sure who took his place. But Snyder was not in charge of the whole studio; he was just one of the directors and producers working together to set its early direction.
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Too bad.
 
Christopher said:
I don't know anything about that. I've used margarine all my life because my family did, just using butter when I ate out, and I only recently heard anything about it being unhealthy, so I looked into it, and my decision not to change what I'm used to is simply inertia. I've never eschewed dairy otherwise.
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I see. Like I said before, the dairy industry's treatment of cow is pretty horrific.
Morpheus 02 said:
Wanted to slide this link about some ànimated DC that is supposed to be taken off HBO Max soon

https://thedirect.com/article/hbo-max-dc-shows-removal
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Damn, I was really hoping to get working on the DCAU shows soon. And I didn't even realize the John Wicks were on there. I watched the first one when it was on the free tier of Peacock, but they pulled the others off there before I got a chance to watch them, and if I had known they put them on HBOMax, I would have watched them there.
 
Mr. Adventure said:
Are you basing all this just on the Kevin Feige statement? I always assumed that meant they want someone who would be in that kind of role at DC not that they literally wanted to make MCU movies with the DC franchise. Though given their history of chasing Marvel, I guess who knows.
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Gunn's direct role in content creation for the MCU was his selling point. Nothing else on his sheet would've prodded WB into hiring him for the position he now holds. This is all about the holder of one of the biggest superhero IPs wanting the same drive / creative direction of the holder of the other biggest superhero IPs--Marvel, or the MCU's mojo, if you will, hence wanting their own Kevin Feige.


FPAlpha said:
Not really, they had Snyder and that's it and he was not the overall creative boss but a director chosen to make key movies in the DCEU. Had it not been for the death of his daughter Gunn might not have the job today because Snyder already had plans for the DECU as evidenced by Justice League. After his exit it all went to crap basically and the change of WB ownership put the final nail in the coffin.
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Agreed--the output of most of the DCEU--post-Snyder's direct involvement--have a been mixed bag. He was not the creative boss over all DC content, but he was brought on to shape its origins and conclude a specific arc. It was no different than endless examples from comic book history where a major artist & writer took on a title for a special story arc, and although said arc would have an effect on the title's future, the artist & writer were not the editor making the overall creative decisions.

I just hope Gunn is pro enough to adapt his style to the different characters - Superman or Batman just aren't MCU style one liner machines.
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That is a concern for many a DC movie fan, and for good reason: a great number of filmmakers are not creative chameleons--they are creatures of habit with certain leanings, hang-ups and go-to approaches to content, so fan concern is justified. They already suffered through the bastardized Whedon version of Justice League which was squeezed through a would-be MCU filter, and that was a disaster upon its release, and the damage was especially glaring when audiences were able to see the contrast in the way the arc was meant to be handled / unfold in ZSJL.
 
TREK_GOD_1 said:
Gunn's direct role in content creation for the MCU was his selling point. Nothing else on his sheet would've prodded WB into hiring him for the position he now holds. This is all about the holder of one of the biggest superhero IPs wanting the same drive / creative direction of the holder of the other biggest superhero IPs--Marvel, or the MCU's mojo, if you will, hence wanting their own Kevin Feige.
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Then what was on Todd Phillips' resume that they wanted him first and begged him for the role of DCs Feige before they got Gunn?

If you look at the facts, what they look at above all is successful WB content. Which Gunn shares with Phillips. There's no Marvel connection Otherwise.
 
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Gunn's prioritizing and actively working on a Superman movie. That's more than anybody else has been doing for years.

Am I somewhat disappointed Cavill and (especially) Adams are out? Yes.

Is that any reason not to be open-minded, optimistic, and supportive of Gunn's efforts? No.

There have been lots of Superman and Lois actors in the past, and there will be many more in the future. They all have their time, then make way for their successors. I'm here for the next inheritors of the legacy.
 
Gunn's direct role in content creation for the MCU was his selling point.
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Aside from his first "Guardians of the Galaxy" movie, Gunn's other MCU content didn't impress me.


Gunn's prioritizing and actively working on a Superman movie. That's more than anybody else has been doing for years.
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I'm not claiming that Gunn's Superman movie will be terrible. I don't know whether it will be good or bad. I'm just not interested in the DCEU or Gunn anymore. I've had it. If his Superman movie turns out to be great, I hope you will enjoy it.
 
As someone who moderately enjoyed Man of Steel and absolutely hated "Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice", I'm hopeful that the upcoming reboot will bring a version of Superman that I can wholeheartedly embrace. Given the strengths of the first Guardians movie, I think Gunn has it in him to create an emotionally resonant, crowd-pleasing Superman movie.
 
Christopher said:
It's a technicality, I know, but if the rumors are true that they're rebooting from scratch, then it won't be the DCEU anymore, will it? It'll be whatever comes after it. (The DCEnU 52?)
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I suggested DCOU... the DC Omni Universe.

Yeah, it should just be OmniVerse, but each news story, I say DC, oh... you....


And should we start a new thread? Or does that need to wait until it actually starts.

When this thread started, we were looking to 2020, and it ended just 2 years after that, despite the name change to infinity and beyond
 
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