Set blueprint exchange

Discussion in 'Fan Art' started by Redgeneral, May 10, 2014.

  1. Rekkert

    Rekkert Fleet Captain Premium Member

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    Those viewscreen changes were drawn up in 1990. I've been wondering about those for a while, the scan I have is bigger than the one posted and has written "renovations" on it, dated 16/04/1990. So I always assumed it was for a planned but never done modification of the bridge around season 4.
     
  2. Lt. Washburn

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    It would be cool to see a CG model of the viewscreen, to really see what it looks like.
     
  3. batboy853

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    I'm sure you guys probably already know in S3 the viewscreen was modified, they changed the inner bevel from the textured to a smooth one.

    I'm looking over screen caps between s3 and s4 and I'm not seeing a difference.... I wonder if they recarpeted the set, and took the chance to make the pull out from the view screen easier to pull out?

    I feel the opposite. With the Voyager viewscreen being smaller, it meant that it was easier to get completely in the frame, allowing the frame within a frame. The galaxy viewscreen makes the bridge feel like a movie theater.
     
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  4. Rekkert

    Rekkert Fleet Captain Premium Member

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    Yes, the viewscreen was also modified from season 1 to season 2 when the set was moved to stage 8, on season 1 that inner bevel wasn't so deep and didn't have the ribbed texture. The carpeting was changed every year, sometimes more than once. Often to the same exact colors, sometimes to new ones.

    As for these modifications from 1990, they obviously weren't done in the end. The shape and curvature of the viewscreen remains constant through the series.

    This is total speculation on my end, but the change would've meant the screen area would've been made flat, so perhaps they intended to project stuff onto it rather than adding everything in post, but decided not to pursue that due to cost. I also have a feeling more of the bridge was gonna be changed alongside the viewscreen.
     
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  6. Rekkert

    Rekkert Fleet Captain Premium Member

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    Yes, the top drawing does because that's what was existing at the time, notice it says 'existing unit' at the center. That's the removable viewscreen unit that was moved for filming and would've been replaced by the new flat one. The only new (and eventually not done) elements on that page are the two connecting pieces at each side for the frame to accept the new unit.
     
  7. Ryann866

    Ryann866 Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    All of these additions are amazing! Thank you for sharing! I'm fascinated by this one:
    http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#15444734874999/16637892983344

    It's a plan for a painted ceiling piece for the top of the warp core in engineering. I don't believe this was ever made, was it? We certainly never had a shot that looked directly up.

    Also, the other engine room print shows details for building the grated platform on the bottom of the warp core, in the pit below the stage floor. Looking closely it details that the existing forced perspective painting from TMP was still present, presumably under the grating. I think the only time we can make that out is in Heart of Glory.
     
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  8. Lt. Washburn

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    Not directly up, but the very first shot of engineering from Encounter at Farpoint shows the ceiling enough to see that it's just plain scrim.

    Also, it's seen pretty well in Heart of Glory, just as you pointed out, where they also show the bottom.
     
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  9. Count

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    Just an FYI on this. The original patterns are Probert's 6 foot D design. The later blueprint is from Sternbach's adaptation of the 4 foot model they built for Season 3+/Ds9.
     
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  10. Redgeneral

    Redgeneral Commander Red Shirt

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    Further blueprints scans donated by our awesome Anomalous Donor

    TOS
    Quarters and Meeting Room - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#15444833631141/16663745409330

    Stages
    Stage 9 "Journey to Babel" - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#15444833631141/16663755820753
    Stage 9 "Charlie X" - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#15444833631141/16663755079763
    Stage 9 "Balance of Terror" - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#15444833631141/16663753886296
    Stage 10 "Deadly Years" - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#15444833631141/16663757340675
    Stage 10 "Conscience of a King" - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#15444833631141/16663756426010

    Phase II
    Possibly quarters (photos)
    Unknown 01 - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#15413596415852/16663775319076
    Unknown 02 - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#15413596415852/16663775320175
    Unknown 03 - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#15413596415852/16663775320880

    TMP Era Movies
    Cargo Hold
    Cargo Airlock - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#15444817226489/16663771243788

    Torpedo Room
    Torpedo room 01 - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#15444817226489/16663818587774
    Torpedo Room 02 - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#15444817226489/16663820466307

    Officers Lounge
    Lounge 01 - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#15444817226489/16663827603638
    Lounge 02 - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#15444817226489/16663830119828

    Engineering
    Isolation Door - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#15444817226489/16664453232122
    Reactor - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#15444817226489/16664453251259
    Reactor Room - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#15444817226489/16664453246706
    Warp core A - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#15444817226489/16664456843150
    Warp Core B - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#15444817226489/16664457688823

    Starfleet
    Epsilon 9 - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#15415366461389/16664490379383
    Orbital Office interior - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#15415366461389/16664479316130
    Travel Pod interior - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#15444658681181/16664470799814
    Shabby Transporter Room - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#15415366461389/16664473685802

    TMP stage
    Stage 9 - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#15444817226489/16663822394816

    TMP sickbay
    Examination Bed - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#15444817226489/16663588528315
    Bed - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#15444817226489/16663592620661
    Sickbay redressed as Bar - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#15444817226489/16663594728749

    Kirk's Quarters
    Quarters 01 TMP - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#15444817226489/16663714723314
    Quarters 02 TMP - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#15444817226489/16663714738423
    Quarters 03 TMP couch bed - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#15444817226489/16663714750047
    Quarters 04 TWOK - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#15444817226489/16663718605260
    Quarters 05 TWOK - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#15444817226489/16663718626121

    Kirk's Apartment
    Room - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#15413719836115/16663724466064

    Bridge
    Bridge Overview - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#15444817226489/16663809022540
    Captain's chair - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#15444817226489/16663805327055

    Tour
    Universal Studios Tour Bridge
    Universal 01 - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#15444655187362/16663512307502
    Universal 02 - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#15444655187362/16663516965441
    Universal 03 - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#15444655187362/16663516660869
    Universal 04 - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#15444655187362/16663516656697
    Universal 05 - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#15444655187362/16663518137012
    Universal 06 - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#15444655187362/16663525643731
    Universal 07 - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#15444655187362/16663525341653
    Universal 08 - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#15444655187362/16663525036107
    Universal 09 - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#15444655187362/16663525030877
    Universal 10 - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#15444655187362/16663525026920
    Universal 11 - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#15444655187362/16663529570731
    Universal 12 - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#15444655187362/16663529265198
    Universal 13 - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#15444655187362/16663529260219

    YouTube of the Universal Tour Sets:
     
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  11. Lt. Washburn

    Lt. Washburn Captain Captain

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    Amazing...
     
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  12. batboy853

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    Oh hey, proper measurements for the biobed that appeared throughout the movies, TNG and DS9!!! Now I can properly model it :D It'll be interesting to see how close I got mine from eyeballing the museum piece.

    How close to the original was the Universal tour set? Obviously it's only half of the bridge.
     
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  13. Ryann866

    Ryann866 Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    It was just a white muslin sheet right, above the set? Not anything with the detail on it from the blueprint?

    I did just checked out Heart of Glory in HD... and sure enough, in that one high shot looking down, you can barely make out the TMP painting on the floor, under the grate -- looks like they painted the railings red in forced perspective to match the TNG ones. Very weird. Great stuff!!
     
  14. Ryann866

    Ryann866 Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    Amazing! All of this stuff. Thank you for sharing. Some interesting things in here -- the first Phase II print is def from Kirk's quarters, the second two are from Sickbay -- the wall that eventually became the back fall of Geordi's office in TNG.

    On the Cargo Hold print you can see a note for "existing beam from briefing room" -- looks like that was leftover from the Phase II Briefing Room set (which we never saw) and was very similar to the TOS set - seems like they were going to cut out a section.
     
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  15. Lt. Washburn

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    As far as I can tell, yes.

    Another cool detail from the new prints is what I (and others) was already fairly certain of, but it explicitly noted on these plans, is that the green wall coverings from the turbolifts was rubber carpet padding. I've always believed this, before I heard others suggest it as well, because when my parents redid the carpeting from our late 70s home, that's what I remember the padding to look like. But I think in our case it was like an orangish-yellow.
     
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  16. Redgeneral

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    The archive now has reference for the various LCARS used on Trek. This has been a joint venture with @batboy853 - he has been helping with the sorting and adding further images.

    Where possible the images are titled with their location, episode appearance and dimensions.

    LCARS - TNG http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#16634375604714
    LCARS - Picard http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#16699819133304
    LCARS - Alien http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#16634381431830
    LCARS - Generic Buttons http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#16699848290011
    LCARS - Generic Isolinear http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#16699832208603
    LCARS - Other Ships http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#16699904064089
    LCARS - Prodigy http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#16634389384728

    Further albums will be added at a later date.

    Also thanks to @Lt. Washburn for sending me a lot of these several years ago.
     
  17. hxclespaulplayer

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    Does anyone want the ent-d blueprints? I have them as 1gb tif per sheet.
     
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  19. Count

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    Depends which D blueprints? Are they Andrew Probert's original, Ed Whitefire's or Rick Sternbachs? Never turn down blueprints but we'd need to know which ones they are to avoid mixing references since all 3 are different
     
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    Silly me thought there were two.