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Spoilers Wednesday (Addams) Netflix Show

But my main point remains that both takes on Thing are intriguing mysteries on their own merits.

Still, if you just compare the different techniques used to create them, the later versions lack something that the original had. It's an illustration of Hitchcock's principle that sometimes what you don't see is more compelling than what you're shown explicitly.
 
Still, if you just compare the different techniques used to create them, the later versions lack something that the original had. It's an illustration of Hitchcock's principle that sometimes what you don't see is more compelling than what you're shown explicitly.
And I disagree at the notion the original is the best take. I think both of them are great mysteries for different reasons. It's fine for you that you enjoy one more than the other but that doesn't make it inherently "better" as you keep arguing.
 
A supernatural theory. One of Frankenstein's hands gets lopped off but continues to "live" on its own therefore proving each part of the host body is alive individually.

A scientific explanation, a brilliant scientist develops a serum that reanimates dead flesh and things get out of hand.

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And I disagree at the notion the original is the best take. I think both of them are great mysteries for different reasons. It's fine for you that you enjoy one more than the other but that doesn't make it inherently "better" as you keep arguing.

I didn't say "better," I said more. There are more layers of mystery to the original Thing. I mean, he's called "the Thing." That's what you call something you don't have a word for, because you don't know what it is. We know what a severed hand is -- it's a severed hand. We may not know why it is, but at least we know what it is. The original Thing was a hand, yeah, but also an arm and... then what? And where? And how? How far does the arm go? What, if anything, is at the other end? What if we're only seeing the tip of the iceberg? It's just less defined, which was the whole idea behind calling him the Thing.

And I personally find it an interesting paradox that the simpler FX technique for creating the character is the one that produces the less straightforward result. I'm not trying to prove I'm "right" or anything childish like that; I'm just talking about something I find interesting. It's a TV show, for Pete's sake. It's not like it's anything genuinely important or worth arguing over. It's just a mildly interesting thing to muse about.



A supernatural theory. One of Frankenstein's hands gets lopped off but continues to "live" on its own therefore proving each part of the host body is alive individually.

A scientific explanation, a brilliant scientist develops a serum that reanimates dead flesh and things get out of hand.

Except that Frankenstein's Monster isn't supernatural. The premise has always been that he was created through a scientific breakthrough -- the synthesis of life from raw materials in the novel, the reanimation of dead tissue in the movies. Indeed, Mary Shelley's Frankenstein is often called the first science fiction novel, in that it was the first to posit a fantastic phenomenon being created through the application of science, or at least of science extrapolated from the real research of the era, such as galvanism.

Anyway, what I'm saying is that I like Thing better without an explanation.
 
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Everything I see about this show makes me all the more excited about it!
 
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Unusual for an online opening title sequence reveal to include the text of the credits.

Also odd that the YouTube videos are headlined "Wednesday Addams," even though the credits show that the title is still just Wednesday.

Anyway, I just decided to cancel Netflix until my work situation improves, so I guess I won't be seeing this right away. I'm moderately curious, but not eager enough to pay for another month for this alone.
 
Unusual for an online opening title sequence reveal to include the text of the credits.

Also odd that the YouTube videos are headlined "Wednesday Addams," even though the credits show that the title is still just Wednesday.

Anyway, I just decided to cancel Netflix until my work situation improves, so I guess I won't be seeing this right away. I'm moderately curious, but not eager enough to pay for another month for this alone.
I imagine "Addams" gets added just to avoid any confusion about which Wednesday the show is about. There practically a million shows out there, OK maybe not that many.
 
I imagine "Addams" gets added just to avoid any confusion about which Wednesday the show is about. There practically a million shows out there, OK maybe not that many.

That's kind of my point. Given that the word "Wednesday" in isolation is ambiguous and calls for clarification (note the title of this very thread), I wondered for a moment if they'd decided to change the actual title of the show to Wednesday Addams. And maybe it would be a good idea if they did.

Just imagine how much more confusing it would be if it were a conventional broadcast show. "Next time on Wednesday, this Friday!" "Wait a minute, what day is it on again?"
 
I watched the first episode of this and was not impressed at all. No real visual style, no wit, no bite. The characters are supposed to be "freaks and outcasts" but they're all just bland teenage cliches. The CGI monster at the end looked terrible. Morticia and Gomez didn't even seem to have much chemistry. The only saving grace was Jenna Ortega doing the best she could as the title character, but everything around her felt so flat that I feel little desire to watch any more (but I'll probably give another couple of episodes a chance.)
 
After the first episode, I'm sold. The writing was good, the dark humor was spot on, especially for a Tim Burton directed show. Jenna Ortega does an amazing job. Agreed with @CaptainWacky that the teen cliches were a little obvious, but a minor nitpick for me.

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I watched the first episode of this and was not impressed at all. No real visual style, no wit, no bite. The characters are supposed to be "freaks and outcasts" but they're all just bland teenage cliches. The CGI monster at the end looked terrible. Morticia and Gomez didn't even seem to have much chemistry. The only saving grace was Jenna Ortega doing the best she could as the title character, but everything around her felt so flat that I feel little desire to watch any more (but I'll probably give another couple of episodes a chance.)
The Mrs watched it. I caught bits and pieces. The best thing I can say about what I saw is that Ortega did a great impression of Christina Ricci.
 
The AV Club wasn't impressed:

Following a series of expulsions, Gomez and Morticia have sent their daughter to study at their own alma mater, Nevermore. The boarding school is a cut-rate Hogwarts situated at the edge of a Stars Hollow-esque New England town, complete with a hangout coffee shop. In short order, the writers make the baffling choice to turn Wednesday into a teen detective investigating a string of mysterious murders.

The show’s laughably lazy version of “wizards” and “muggles” is “outcasts” and “normies”; and Nevermore, the writers remind us over and over again, is a haven for the former. While taking her on a tour, Wednesday’s chipper roommate Enid (Emma Myers) tells her that it’s a school for “outcasts, freaks, monsters—fill in your favorite marginalized group here.” And sure, their classmates are vampires, werewolves, seers, and the like—but they’re definitely not weirdos, let alone marginalized. No, Nevermore is populated by rich, mostly white kids who are as cliquish and put off by otherness as the students at any regular high school. For example, one teen is weirded out by the fact that Wednesday’s outfit is … monochromatic?​
 
I watched most of the first episode on Thursday but haven't gone back to finish it, which isn't an encouraging sign. I was intrigued at the beginning post-piranhas, but once they moved to Magic School I quickly lost interest.
 
I'm really enjoying it. I'm on episode four. I think this would work better as a limited series, as I'm not sure it's sustainable.
 
I got to episode 5 today, the family reunion. Sure, CZJ plays a much darker version of "Tish", but I like it. Carolyn Jones was obviously a much sweeter, TV friendly version for a 1960's sitcom, and Anjelica Huston had her own take on the character.

I think if they do a spinoff focusing more on the whole family, I could get used to these actors. They fit really well in a Tim Burton-esqe take on the characters.

The grenade fishing has it's roots in some of the earliest work.
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Finished yesterday.

The main story began to drag out a bit, but the fun of the characters and strength of the mysteries presented made me glad it wasn't over too quickly. Great start!
 
One episode down, I wish her deadpan delivery was just a little better, she steps over a lot of lines that need another half or quarter beat to land.
 
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