DC Movies - To Infinity and Beyond
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The name everybody ignores is Peter Safran. This man has not only been a frequent collaborator of Gunn's for decades, but he's also been a producer on the Aquaman and SHAZAM! movies, as well as The Suicide Squad and Peacemaker with Gunn. It wouldn't surprise me if Safran was the original contact person between WB/DC and Gunn.
Not only is this just awesome news in general, but its also really going to piss off the Snyder stans, which is a great bonus.
They are absolutely losing it.
I'm a SYNDER STAN. And this news did not make me happy. Mind you, I enjoyed "Aquaman". But I thought "Shazam!" was mediocre, aside from 2 scenes that impressed me and I loathed "The Suicide Squad". And as I have pointed out in the past, the only James Gunn comic book movie I really liked was 2014's "Guardians of the Galaxy" and that was because Nicole Perlman had co-written the film with him. So yeah . . . I went "apeshit" over the news about Gunn. I don't expect Snyder to return making DC films for WB. But I believe the studio could have made a better choice than Gunn to oversee them.
Well, that's certainly encouraging, since those are my third and second favorite DCEU movies, respectively.
I'm all for this news. I look forward to what's next. This and the return of Superman is good news for me.
And I think it's foolish for anyone to assume it means that all the DC stuff will now look and sound like a Gunn film.
Kind of funny that Gunn wrote Snyder's first film.
And I think it's foolish for anyone to assume it means that all the DC stuff will now look and sound like a Gunn film.
Kind of funny that Gunn wrote Snyder's first film.
Still his best one IMHO
Of course it used the characters and relationships from the source material, but the point was that it reinterpreted them in a radically different style and tone. The show was designed to minimize the comic-book elements and make the concept appealing to audiences who wouldn't touch a comic book with a ten-foot pole. There were fans of Smallville who literally did not know it had any connection to Superman, because Superman was not a character they had any interest in and thus they didn't know that the names Clark Kent and Lex Luthor were connected to him.
This is why it's so wrong to argue for imaginary dividing lines between "adapted" and "original" stories, and why it's superficial to define that solely in terms of whether it uses the same title and character names. You can take the elements of an existing story and transform them into something that's extremely different, yet at the same time embodies the same essence. Whether an audience member sees it as basically the same or completely different depends on what side of it they're looking at. You, YLu, can look at a reinvention like early Smallville and recognize it as fundamentally the same despite its transformation, but I know another online commenter who adamantly refuses to acknowledge that an adaptation like Sherlock or Elementary is the same character as Sherlock Holmes at all, because he can't look past the surface changes. It's a matter of subjective tolerance, not an objective truth of how stories "should" be told. Originality is not a yes/no question. Most creative works are derivative in some ways and original in others. It's a continuum, not a zero-sum choice.
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The key point. Its about Zaslav's vision and his stated desire to focus on the "trinity" of Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman, so that will require building on established films, how the characters were formed by the story and actors, and of course--as Dwayne Johnson says--what the fans want to see.
Cavill was the man "most wanted" by many at WB+D to return to the role, hence all of the efforts made (of the past couple of years) to bring him back. The fans certainly wanted to see more of the Cavill Superman and instead of making the wrongheaded decision of recasting, reboots or anything else, WB+D / Zaslav is moving forward with one of the established keys of their crown.
With an enthusiastic Cavill on board, one should expect to see him in the Superman role for some time to come.
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It was, and Dwayne Johnson was wise to push Black Adam from not making his debut in that crap and developing the character's own origin story, which--by necessity--needed to be darker and violent, which you were not going to get in that awful mess otherwise known as Shazam.
I don't see what difference it makes at this point.
I don't see what difference it makes at this point.
It makes no difference either way, as no one knows who will be writing and directing every project on the schedule. It only matters to those disturbed individuals wasting time obsessively hating fans of a filmmaker and his work, which has no impact on WB+D's decisions. This is similar to the way certain members of this same, bitter group who soiled social media, desperately hoping Cavill and Affleck were never returning to the DCEU, and seeing that as a "victory" or "hurting" WB/DCEU...whoops.
I'll admit that I still think Zaslav is a jackass but I'll give him a ton of credit for this move.
Well, don't give him too much, Indiewire ran an article yesterday that they're going to vault $2 billion worth of more content to get more tax write offs, along with more massive layoffs. They'll be doing additional vaulting and cuts all the way to the end of 2024. Kinda wonder if the Gunn/Safron announcement was meant to bury that. If so, it seemed to have worked.
https://www.indiewire.com/2022/10/w...ent-write-off-batgirl-q3-earnings-1234775731/
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The HBO Green Lantern show seems to still be a goer but it’s being retooled and will now focus on John Stewart rather than Guy Gardner and Alan Scott. Don’t be too impatient for it just yet https://www.superherohype.com/tv/52...x_QKs8KAkVYWjn_VyekTInf-KgBFP31h659dT1AUM3NAA
I think I may have mentioned months ago that James Gunn should be in charge. While I wasn't hot on 'The Suicide Squad' I did love 'Peacemaker' and I think he can do a lot of good for the DC cinematic universe.
John Stewart makes more sense. Although I was really interested to see what they'd do with Guy Gardner and Alan Scott.
This is encouraging, as I like every single Green Lantern more than Guy Gardner and even Alan Scott would be sullied by his inclusion. Yay for John Stewart!