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Spoilers Andor season one

I didn't really mean funny "ha ha" but it would be darkly amusing if, after spending a whole season thinking he's going to interact with the main plot again, the fascist cop ends up being a victim of the system he sought to prop up. Sorry I sometimes forget not to be flippant with my language here.
I should probably not be so sensitive. I deal with suicidal teens a lot in my work so joking about suicide is a big "no-no" for me.
From Red Dwarf. Google will be your friend.
Doesn't help me much seeing as how I know nothing about the character.

Googled it. Still confused. I guess you had to experience it.
Andor is more adult but only in the sense that appeals to us as adults in a different way. Andor appeals to our more mature, seasoned selves. Were The Mandalorian appeals to our inner kid. The part of us that just wants some fun escapism.
I guess I just see it differently. Mandalorian is like a video game, with a more explorative nature, while Andor is a drama with a more character driven nature.
 
Where did you see that?
The novel Thrawn. At one point, Thrawn tries to pull rank on Yularen since he's an Admiral (this is set before Thrawn becomes Grand Admiral) and Yularen is a Colonel, to which Yularen rebuffs saying that a Colonel in ISB is above an Admiral in the Navy. I would assume the same is true of a General in the Army
 
Better episode .. Mon is finally getting up off her bum.
Don't really like.. Lets talk secret traitorous business in my likely bugged townhouse in front of a hundred people who will hear me. :rolleyes:

Better , but still boring.
 
Another great episode. It was nice to get back to Ferrix and see what happened there after Cassian left. I'm curious if Maarva being so ready to turn Rebel is going to come into play at some point. We already have Bix dealing with Lethen, and now with Maarva wanting to turn, means that the two most important people in his are either involved or want to get involved with the Rebellion. I can't see that not having an impact on him.
I really enjoy what they've been doing with Mon Mothma so far. I've been curious about her ever since I saw her in Return of the Jedi, so it's nice to finally take a deep dive into her character. I'm curious what exactly her history is with Tay that she'd be willing to trust him so much. I'm curious to see what exactly is going to become of her family as she gets more involved in the Rebellion. From her husband's attitude, I can't see him staying with her, but her daughter is a big question mark.
I have to admit, I didn't recognize Vel at first with the fancier clothes, hairdo and makeup.
 
Exactly.
This is why I see him switching sides. I think they are playing him as a honorable Republican who is not the most progressive sort and isn't going to be all in on what the Rebels are into but he is going to see the Empire for what it's become. He is someone who might have grown up knowing about how they won the Clone War and likely thinks the Jedi were elitist traitors and all of that. He is Liz Cheney in a uniform. Sort of anyways.
Nope. He's driven by pride, ego, shame, insecurities, a burning desire for recognition, and a dogmatic adherence to "the rules." He's an authoritarian to the core. That the authority he craves just chewed him up and spat him out makes no difference in his mind. He'll always come crawling back to it. Just like with his mother.

Real world explanation: Filoni didn't realize that Yularen was a Colonel in ANH and thought he was a Grand Admiral because of the white uniform, therefore made Yularen an Admiral in Clone Wars.
In universe explanation: Apparently an ISB Colonel does outrank a military flag officer, as outlined in the new Disney Canon novels.
I highly doubt that 1) Filoni didn't look up the character's background, 2) Filoni was the one and only person on the production who is responsible for checking into such things. The much more likely real world explanation is that they just thought it would be fun to use him as the recurring Admiral character the show needed for a few episodes. No real need to look much deeper into it than that.

Also; not to be "that guy" about it, but Navy and civil intelligence officers cannot "outrank" one another because they're not a part of the same hierarchy and chain of command. OK, well sure, they are technically because: dictatorship, but the only people that can give them both direct orders are of the "Darth" persuasion, so not relevant.

It would probably be more apt to simply say that an ISB Colonel has a better standing (and pay) in Imperial society than a Navy Admiral, possible more comparable to a Grand Admiral.

Maybe it's because I grew up around the military and it's just a given for those that know the culture, but I find it odd how many people are struggling with the concept of "person retires from the military and does something else."

Very few people serve right up until mandatory retirement age. Indeed for most it's the opposite way round; they serve the minimum they need to get their pension and then out onto civvy street. More often then not for the higher ranks it's straight into a cushy senior position in civilian job, either working directly for or with the military, or for one of the contractors, as a reward for totally sticking by the rules and not once fiddling the books or looking the other way when the budget reports came through...:shifty:

Especially true of officers since as soon as they feel like they're not going to be promoted up the ranks much more, there's no reason to stick around so may as well take the money and leave as soon as they qualify. There's only so many high rank postings after all, so beyond a certain point it's all dead-men's shoes. The mid-rank lifers are usually the ones too incompetent or too institutionalised to function outside the military, and they know it (you really don't want to know how incompetent you have to be to be kicked out of the military, it's honestly terrifying.)
 
I'm still suspecting that Syril might (not definitely, of course; how could I be certain?) turn and become a Rebel, if he ever sees the Empire as essentially lawless.

Fantastic episode this week.

Probe droids over Space Miami. :eek:
 
I highly doubt that 1) Filoni didn't look up the character's background, 2) Filoni was the one and only person on the production who is responsible for checking into such things.
According to Wookieepedia, in the audio commentary for the Clone Wars movie, they said they thought Yularen was a Grand Admiral in ANH because of his white uniform. Wormhole isn't making this up, it comes right from their mouths.

In their commentary, the creators of The Clone Wars film describe how they were under the assumption that Yularen had been a Grand Admiral during the time of Episode IV, given his white uniform. As such, they opted to portray Yularen as an admiral, as a means of showing him in the process of rising through the ranks.

I don't own the movie so I can't confirm if they actually do say that, but I have no reason to doubt it.
 
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Also; not to be "that guy" about it, but Navy and civil intelligence officers cannot "outrank" one another because they're not a part of the same hierarchy and chain of command. OK, well sure, they are technically because: dictatorship, but the only people that can give them both direct orders are of the "Darth" persuasion, so not relevant.
Yes, but pissing matches between officers =drama.
 
Yularen's had a pretty consistent appearance across 45 years of the franchise:

Admiral-Yularen-Across-the-Years.jpg
 
Yes, but pissing matches between officers =drama.
How is that relevant? We're talking about whether going from a Navy Admiral to an ISB Colonel constitutes a demotion (which it does not because: not applicable) not whether or not one can order the other around.
So in that little flashback were those Clonetroopers? Looked like it with the costumes. I thought they were “discontinued” ages ago
Well it is a flashback, no? The implication here is clearly that this incident was right after the end of the Clone Wars. As we're seeing on 'Bad Batch', the process of demobbing the clone army started early, but was by no means instant.
I don't own the movie so I can't confirm if they actually do say that, but I have no reason to doubt it.
It's not that cut and dried. What he actually says is: -
"Yularen here, most people think he's Tarkin, but he's not as we know now. Admiral Yularen is actually in Episode IV: A New Hope. He sits at the Death Star conference table with Motti and Tarkin and he's in the white, you know, grand admiral uniform in A New Hope. So we thought it'd be fun to have him as a young man here, and that he kind of ride Anakin and then Vader's coattails up the ladder."
For context; this is a video commentary with Filloni and others speaking very much off the cuff while the movie plays in front of them, so I'd say "Filloni thought Yularen was a Grand Admiral during production" is a bit of a reach. More accurate to say "Filloni likened his white uniform to that of a Grand Admirals in passing while making a largely unrelated point during a recording of a DVD commentary."
And this is why you never trust a wiki without a direct quote. Context matters.
 
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How is that relevant? We're talking about whether going from a Navy Admiral to an ISB Colonel constitutes a demotion (which it does not because: not applicable) not whether or not one can order the other around.
Eh, I was attempting to make a joke...perhaps my coffee hasn't kicked in yet for me to phrase it better.
 
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