Which made me think that Superman was still in his Rocket on his way home from Krypton, and this is VR entertainment meant to keep the brain agile while he's in stasis.
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Which made me think that Superman was still in his Rocket on his way home from Krypton, and this is VR entertainment meant to keep the brain agile while he's in stasis.
I should mention that despite my issues with the end of MoS, I do think that the Superman character is the closest we've seen to a comics version of Superman as he's been portrayed in the comics.
I do wish that we had been able to get another movie that made time for more of his supporting cast because he is part of a family that includes more than Lois and his mother. Jimmy and Perry are great friends to both Clark and Superman--and his friendship with Diana and Bruce are huge parts of all three characters. One of the only really great decisions of Bendis' run on Superman and Action comics was having Clark reveal who he was to the world--the way that Perry and Jimmy supported him rather than pull the angry because you never told me routine was emotional and truly moving.
Have you read The Wrong Earth?
https://www.amazon.com/Wrong-Earth-Vol-1/dp/0998044202
2 or three 6 issue volumes, and a few specials.
Pretend its DC, but its not DC.
Adam West's Batman and the Dark Knight Return's Batman switch places in each other universes, waging their on man war on crime using and dealing with drastically different rules.
Perry's reaction was one of my favorite comics pages in recent memory.
I've heard of it, but I have not read it yet. From what I've heard about it, it would be similar to transporting the Weisinger / Reeves / Salkind's idea of Superman in the DCEU. Then again, the DCEU world would not press that Superman into relentlessly doing something he never had to (killing a villain) because its own Superman does not face the need to do that often.
If Lois dies, Superman starts making really bad decisions.
Only in poorly conceived stories. YES, Lois is hugely important -- I take a back seat to no one in my regard for Lois Lane -- but Clark is not a moral void without her.
Just ran across this page on somebody's blog:
I know there are people who don't like Bendis, but by God I think he found a great voice for Clark, and I love basically everything about this scene. This is how I like to see Superman handle a threat: with compassion and openness, but with an undercurrent of steel ("... there are all kinds of characters just waiting ... who do not have my patience").
And the "Oh, #$@#$ that" makes me
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I know there are people who don't like Bendis, but by God I think he found a great voice for Clark, and I love basically everything about this scene. This is how I like to see Superman handle a threat: with compassion and openness, but with an undercurrent of steel ("... there are all kinds of characters just waiting ... who do not have my patience").
And the "Oh, #$@#$ that" makes me
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I was watching the Samaritan movie and I was thinking this would be a good idea for a Superman movie. Keep the idea that he was Superman back in the 30’s/40’s but later he just disappears, only to be in hiding as he has given up on humanity. Could make a good comic story.
Yeah, I'm gonna nope out on that.
I would prefer something more akin to the story we got in the comics where the pre-New52 Lois and Clark had been hiding on the new Earth with Clark continuing his work in secret as the couple raised their son.
Superman in hiding after having given up on humanity, isn't that how Kingdom Come starts?! We already got that story.
Chris Reeve/Brandon Routh CW Crisis Superman was the Kingdom Come Superman, but it was early days and was still publisher of the Daily Planet, since the Joker also killed Perry White.
It's also how Star Wars got ruined.
I like that panel a lot. I think it embodies what humanity is capable of if given the chance. Which is why I get so frustrated with the idea that Superman can't be dark. I want him to be dark and to chose the light and to be that model of improving oneself, willing to show the way to other people, beings like himself, and potentially inspire humanity to do the same.
I like this panel and am frustrated by how often I see humans go "Do better!" without any willingness to be patience enough to show how to do better.
Could be interesting. I would be curious about such a story. Did you like Samaritan?
It has a very mythological style to the story which I appreciate and enjoy in a lot of stories.
Usually because decades of Superman fiction has him use her as his gateway identifier / representation of his attempts to fit into human society, more than his being romantically involved with her. If she is killed by unnatural (read: criminal) means, he would lose his grip on his efforts to "play human", seeking harsh ways--across the board--to deal with the pain of his loss in a world populated by the kind of people who killed Lois.
I know you're making a joke, Guy, but I would like to add that the story behind the video game is designed to set up a scenario where Superman becomes a tyrant. It is a story set in its own world and doesn't really shed any light on who Superman has ever been in other media--apart from the odd Elseworlds story.
His gateway to humanity are still his parents, his job, his friends and co-workers like Jimmy and Perry and his ability to help others and see the effects of that. He's grounded enough like a normal person to deal with tragedy like a normal person.
Lazy writers just hate normal people though.
So I rewatched Man of Steel the other night, and found myself liking it more than I feel like I ever have before. Not sure why. 
Maybe because I was experiencing the actual movie for the first time in several years, rather than reacting to the idea of it. Or maybe because I watched it on its own terms, without all the fannish noise that surrounds it.
Some of the movie's fans do it no favors with their obsessive fervor, particularly the tendency to denigrate other versions of the character -- and fans of those versions -- in order to herald their preferred take. (There's one prolific poster hereabouts who's especially guilty of this.) After a while, it becomes difficult to separate the film from its fandom.
OTOH, some of that rabid fervor comes from defensiveness, a feeling that Cavill's Superman, and themselves as fans, are constantly under unfair attack. Having delivered plenty of those attacks myself in the past, I get that the blame is by no means all on one side.
In the end, the movie is the movie, neither perfect nor pernicious. It's too bad that it's become so divisive, creating a culture in the fandom that seems to demand you're either for MoS, or you're against it. After my most recent viewing, I'm more inclined than ever to consider it just one more take on Superman among many -- which is all its less toxic fans have been saying all along.
Maybe because I was experiencing the actual movie for the first time in several years, rather than reacting to the idea of it. Or maybe because I watched it on its own terms, without all the fannish noise that surrounds it.
Some of the movie's fans do it no favors with their obsessive fervor, particularly the tendency to denigrate other versions of the character -- and fans of those versions -- in order to herald their preferred take. (There's one prolific poster hereabouts who's especially guilty of this.) After a while, it becomes difficult to separate the film from its fandom.
OTOH, some of that rabid fervor comes from defensiveness, a feeling that Cavill's Superman, and themselves as fans, are constantly under unfair attack. Having delivered plenty of those attacks myself in the past, I get that the blame is by no means all on one side.
In the end, the movie is the movie, neither perfect nor pernicious. It's too bad that it's become so divisive, creating a culture in the fandom that seems to demand you're either for MoS, or you're against it. After my most recent viewing, I'm more inclined than ever to consider it just one more take on Superman among many -- which is all its less toxic fans have been saying all along.