Crew is extra...
Things I have always wanted to know.
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In the TOS episode All Our Yesterdays, the Enterprise arrives at a planet that's going be destroyed in hours. Exactly what were they going to accomplish? Setting aside the prime directive, were they going too just worn them of the imminate destruction of their world and then leave?
I believe they were just there to record the cataclysm for posterity, since the event was too big for any known civilization to avert. And they didn't need to warn the populace, who were already all too aware of the disaster awaiting them.
Observe and report.
Picard literally just gives one to Scotty, a retired ship's engineer, who's never even actually been in one of their models before. Just "Here. Fly away in this"
Yes, but he could have easily written a note to Utopia Planitia to send a spare shuttle to the Starbase he was to rendezvous with in three months. Janeway couldn't.
(Though, to be honest, I think they certainly could have been produced on board the Ent-D, the ship was big enough for it).
If only Voyager's writers had been a bit more prescient, they could have accounted for it right in Caretaker. (Or dubbed it in in more recent releases.)
STADI: Some of the traditional circuitry has been replaced by gel packs that contain bio-neural cells. They organise information more efficiently, speed up response time. They also allow for near-unlimited production of photon torpedoes and shuttlecraft, even when resources are critically low. They have an incompatible energy matrix, you see.
(Though, to be honest, I think they certainly could have been produced on board the Ent-D, the ship was big enough for it).
If only Voyager's writers had been a bit more prescient, they could have accounted for it right in Caretaker. (Or dubbed it in in more recent releases.)
STADI: Some of the traditional circuitry has been replaced by gel packs that contain bio-neural cells. They organise information more efficiently, speed up response time. They also allow for near-unlimited production of photon torpedoes and shuttlecraft, even when resources are critically low. They have an incompatible energy matrix, you see.
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"We have a full compliment of shuttles. Not to mention the Delta Flyer."
Chakotay, "ALICE"
He should have added, "Even though I personally have destroyed three shuttles, and will destroy another one late next year."
Chakotay, "ALICE"
He should have added, "Even though I personally have destroyed three shuttles, and will destroy another one late next year."
Maybe shuttles are stored in the transporter database and just pooped out when needed haha.
Actually by the 30th Century or such why don't we have ships that are mostly crew and empty space and all the juicy stuff is just transported into use when needed like weapons and shuttles? then de-rezzed when not in use?
Actually by the 30th Century or such why don't we have ships that are mostly crew and empty space and all the juicy stuff is just transported into use when needed like weapons and shuttles? then de-rezzed when not in use?
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I am thinking that perhaps each of the disks represented a time period of X, with volunteers spaced out to record each lifetime. By the time one set dies, another comes in….and records to the disk…to leave it. The last man to leave made sure copies were made, and probably went back far enough to launch a library, perhaps going through another such doorway later.
Enterprise should have beamed up the disk repository just in case. Saving the library is saving the planet, after a fashion.
Part of me wonders just what became of the planet in its final moments. Had last survivor pulled an Arronax, saved a copy of the disks in his spacecraft and protected the data…he could go back..make sure humanoids don’t occur…and the planet meets its end in a pristine fashion….which may itself be documented anew.
So help me…but there was a part of me that thought the repository was the only structure.
But a flag officer still gets a (presumably-crewed) flagship, and it sounds pretty reasonable he'd get to pick which one. He may not be authorized to go off on some spurious adventure to invade the Neutral Zone, but he could. And then he'd get called on the carpet afterward (and censured, reprimanded or busted), which WOULD'VE happened to Riker if that timeline had come true.
Considering politicians can arrange private jets seemingly at will to sod off to Saudi and the like to "discuss trade" I'm sure in Trek someone of Picard's reputation could get a small ship if he just asked about it the right way
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Not sure what that has to do with my post, but I agree with you.
You may be right. On-screen evidence shows the external view through the library doorway to be a hilly terrain with some trees; no signs of any man-made structures, etc. Odd because this library would need to used by the entire population to escape, so, I'd expect it to be located in the largest city or at least near a populated center.
It also served as a tombstone for the planet. The outside of it likely had historical figures---something the Enterprise might have recorded for posterity.
If the portal opened right as the plant went up---it could perhapes used the power of the exploding star to retrocausally power itself---everything all wrapped up in a neat little bow.
If the portal opened right as the plant went up---it could perhapes used the power of the exploding star to retrocausally power itself---everything all wrapped up in a neat little bow.
Time machines are a paradox.
I find that a most interesting statement
In regards to Voyager's shuttle & torpedo thing, in the Season 7 ep Nightingale we see the ship landed on an uninhabited planet undergoing repairs.
My head canon is they did that every six months/year maybe, they just take a week or so to "tidy up" and make repairs, build new shutles etc. Using the planet's rescources to fully fuel up, and the whole crew chips in, even non-engineering crew would have basic knowledge to help out.
Hence why the ship is always fine and looks it, despite never going to a starbase. They don't need to, they can just do it themselves. Only in UFP space it's just easier and more time effeciant for ships to go to starbases and have someone else do it.
My head canon is they did that every six months/year maybe, they just take a week or so to "tidy up" and make repairs, build new shutles etc. Using the planet's rescources to fully fuel up, and the whole crew chips in, even non-engineering crew would have basic knowledge to help out.
Hence why the ship is always fine and looks it, despite never going to a starbase. They don't need to, they can just do it themselves. Only in UFP space it's just easier and more time effeciant for ships to go to starbases and have someone else do it.
I like this idea, and the fact that Voyager can land they can land an do repairs without spacesuits and take more time to get it done right.
Really, the whole drama regarding Voyager's torpedoes could have just been avoided if they hadn't had that line in the first season saying exactly how many they had aboard and added that that can't be replaced. Sure it may seem to make for a dramatic moment in one episode, but they had to have known the fans would be keeping track, and when you think things over, there's no logical reason why they can't manufacture new torpedoes.
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