We should see a lot more ship variety in Starfleet than just saucery Human designs.
What are your controversial Star Trek opinions?
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If it was up to the various creative teams, we would likely have a half-dozen new movies by now. It is cold feet by Paramount holding the movie franchise back.
I would very much like this too, With the destruction of Romulus in Picard, the Alpha Quadrant will be a very different place to what it was in 90’s Trek. So much potential there for a new show. I wouldn’t be opposed to the odd callback, in the same way TNG/DS9/VOY had the odd cameo here and there, but it should be infrequent at best. Give a new crew and a new ship a chance to tell a story without the retconning and need to rely on legacy characters.
Hopefully the appearance of the Enterpirse F will provide a jumping off point for this to happen. Who doesn’t love a show set on board the Federation flagship?
Chicken and the egg. The films dug themselves into a hole of their own making. They took too long to come out, the sequels were budgeted too high, they haven't fought to keep directors, they're too afraid to recast if an actor demands too much money... they're not willing to find ways for the movies to be made. They just keep letting whatever curve balls they're thrown turn into excuses to not do anything. So they don't deserve to have another movie. And the guy at the top, JJ Abrams, he doesn't care if it gets made or not. If he did, he would've found a way to have it be made by now.
Beyond. Paramount wanted it out in 2016. They made it happen, regardless of the obstacles (like having to write a new script).
It all comes back to they can't get their act together. Not even the first movie took this long. It took five or six years in the '70s, compared to passing six years and going on seven now.
Exactly. Paramount can't get its act together. It is a mistake to blame creative teams for the studio's cold feet.
They are afraid. Unfortunately, that means no movie.
So, Lower Decks.
Yes, but not animated.
Thank you. I was going to say exactly that.
Doesn't matter that it's animated, it's GOOD. Until SNW, LOWER DECKS was miles ahead of the live action shows in terms of quality.
Just because a show is animated doesn't mean it isn't quality. 90s X-MEN cartoon, BATMAN, LOWER DECKS...
And misses my point but thanks for painting that erroneous picture.
Hey, I thought you said upthread that my tastes were only a little bit different from yours! This is more like a 180.
I like Prodigy better than Lower Decks. The '90s Batman cartoon is first-rate. I've only seen a few episodes of The X-Men cartoon and that was when it first came out, so my memory of it is more faded than a pair of stone-washed jeans.
EDITED TO ADD: Beast Wars is another good cartoon from the '90s. As much as I don't like to admit it, it's better than the Transformers cartoon from the '80s, which was the one I watched when I was in elementary school.
Before anyone asks: Even though I'm not really a fan of it, I think JJ Abrams' Star Trek is a lot better than Michael Bay's Transformers. At least in JJ Trek, I can tell who's who and can follow what's going on.
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TRANSFORMERS by Michael Bay... UGGGHHHHH!!!
Horrible, just horrible. I have never seen any of the sequels because the first was just such trash.
Original cartoon was great.
Horrible, just horrible. I have never seen any of the sequels because the first was just such trash.
Original cartoon was great.
The overarching theme that humanity must overcome its vices to reach the stars or something poetic like that is cute, but when you meet entire alien civilizations who are personifications OF those vices it kind of falls flat 
Imagine trying to watch Lower Decks with zero knowledge of Star Trek. It would suck. It's a show pandering to us oldies, I'd love to know the viewing figures compared to Disco, Picard and SNW.
But I'm still glad that Lower Decks was made for us "Oldies".
Sometimes it's good to have a show to cater to your fan base.
So DS9, Voyager, Discovery, Prodigy and Lower Decks then?
EDIT: 12 series in total, less than half of them set aboard the Federation flagship. Definitely don't see enough of lesser ships in the fleet right enough.
I have to agree with @Eckauskas here.
I watched Star Trek from 1991-1999 and then from 2017 on. So, in actuality, most of my first-run Star Trek viewing experience has been DS9/VOY followed by DSC/PIC. Only the last three seasons of TNG and the one season of SNW (so far) involve my watching (cue announcer's voice) The New Adventures of The Federation Flagship!
I watched Star Trek from 1991-1999 and then from 2017 on. So, in actuality, most of my first-run Star Trek viewing experience has been DS9/VOY followed by DSC/PIC. Only the last three seasons of TNG and the one season of SNW (so far) involve my watching (cue announcer's voice) The New Adventures of The Federation Flagship!
I don’t know why it’s a big deal to anyone. The episodes would be exactly the same regardless of the status of the vehicle they fly around in.
How about there is nothing about the flagship status that adds any real value to the narrative. Never mind the fact that there is no flag officer serving aboard so the terminology of "flagship" is used incorrectly.
Which is something I find annoying at times. I do not like being pandered to.
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