Are they EMP shielded? You're not going to have anything to watch after the first nuclear airburst. 
I'm a HUGE proponent of physical media (where available) over computer files.
"Such men dare take what they want..."--Khan: Sexy or creepy?
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Are they EMP shielded? You're not going to have anything to watch after the first nuclear airburst. I'm a HUGE proponent of physical media (where available) over computer files.
To avoid EMP damage I would have to convert my media to vinyl, or move to New Zealand.
I'm a HUGE proponent of physical media (where available) over computer files.
Hard drives are getting cheaper and smaller, in 10 years I'll be able to store 40 tb of data on a thumb drive, and maybe be able to afford two of them, so that I can back my Data up.
Maybe it's an early sign of the future human exceptionalism that would be more prominently displayed during early TNG that Kirk & Co. don't put Khan under heavier security because they're confident in their ability to handle whatever threat he might present and conseqently don't feel any need to do so?
Not that Picard's crew was necessarily any better when it came to security lapses. I kind of loved Odo reading Worf the riot act over that.
Not that Picard's crew was necessarily any better when it came to security lapses. I kind of loved Odo reading Worf the riot act over that.
. . . and get a spring-driven purely accoustic phonograph!
I may be Luddite, but I'm not THAT Luddite!
There's been some speculation that McGivers also had technical duties (hence the red uniform) rather than being a full-time historian. But Kirk's line toward the beginning of the episode did make it seem like she generally didn't have much to do.
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I just remembered that McGivers also knew how to let Kirk out of the decompression chamber safely. She was quite a Swiss army knife, actually. The red uniform makes more and more sense.
Actually, I think they designed it so even a 7 year-old not learning calculus could operate it (height of control panel notwithstanding). There were only two function buttons to push - "vacuum" or "pressure", which wouldn't work until after the door was fully closed as safety precaution. No "Stop" button as that was controlled in tandem by the door-open switch, so hope that one never wears out or malfunctions or anything due to someone incessantly pressing/smashing the switch button despite that college degree in "Pressurization chamber operating button mechanics and how to be patient with the patient". And the de/re-compression interval was preset* so one didn't need to be some technical geek about something that could be otherwise hazardous. and best left to professionals in their field so the person inanely smashing buttons could be better suited to their profession where, if the situation were reversed and yon medic was trying to figure out a phaser or something and, oops, has it pointed the wrong way because the art deco design made the lens look more like a recharge port or who knows... never mind all of those alluring, bright and flashy controls on the bridge consoles...
* not variable - until season 3 when a new story demanded variable control...
https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Decompression_chamber
...so, you don't just pop the hatch?
If nothing else, there was once this personal ad I'd seen...
The episode suggested as such, yet despite not getting to do so for Enterprise, he was quick to do so for Reliant - Chekov and Terell knowing what to do or what to look up...
Which, in the context of 1967, may have been the hope of the makers for the audience to make notice of. And/or that Kirk assumed an officer's duties by role title only and "Historian" doesn't mean they do nothing else but paint hawt Earth dudes; they probably specialize and liaise with other Federated planets' representatives to make note of histories to add to Federation library.
But then the story wouldn't be as much fun.
Actually, I think they designed it so even a 7 year-old not learning calculus could operate it (height of control panel notwithstanding). There were only two function buttons to push - "vacuum" or "pressure", which wouldn't work until after the door was fully closed as safety precaution. No "Stop" button as that was controlled in tandem by the door-open switch, so hope that one never wears out or malfunctions or anything due to someone incessantly pressing/smashing the switch button despite that college degree in "Pressurization chamber operating button mechanics and how to be patient with the patient". And the de/re-compression interval was preset* so one didn't need to be some technical geek about something that could be otherwise hazardous. and best left to professionals in their field so the person inanely smashing buttons could be better suited to their profession where, if the situation were reversed and yon medic was trying to figure out a phaser or something and, oops, has it pointed the wrong way because the art deco design made the lens look more like a recharge port or who knows... never mind all of those alluring, bright and flashy controls on the bridge consoles...
All true, but I'm still impressed at the extent of her Starfleet cross-training. Shoot, in the same episode Scotty admits he's not up on Milton.Spacing everyone just on mild suspicion would be cruel and evil.
Throwing everyone into the brig just on mild suspocopm would be bad to a lesser degree.
The Enterprise, and starships in general, need places which are luxurious or at least comforable quarters which have security as tight as Kirk's brig - preferably even better. Thus Kirk could tell a visitor they were getting high quality guest quarters without mentioning that part of the guality of those quarters was the ability to keep people confined. By the time of fthe Enterprise D such quest quarters/sneaky brig could have holosuites and lots of other entertainment to keep the visitors satisified in their quarters as long as possible..
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I totally disagree.
I reckon 30 years ago most people would have been against gay marriage, inter-racial marriage, unmarried mothers, women in the armed forces, a woman President etc.
I look at Westerns now and cringe at how first nations peoples are portrayed and treated. I think of how women/children were treated 100 years ago.
I think we have changed for the better but probably not according to Khan.
It is quite a lottery win when you think about the fact that 200 years after Khan launched his ship into the void of space, it would be found by a starship roaming that void, who just happen to have the one historian who is a expert of earth history from 200 years ago, sort of like hitting a bullet with another bullet while blindfolded going down a cobbled hill on a unicycle. Lol
Is that a theory you've had since you first viewed the episode or did you develop it more recently?
I ask because computer security in the 60s was nonexistent. I mean, there'd be physical security around the machines, maybe, but once you were inside, forget it. LOGONs didn't even have passwords (I discovered this building Journeyvac, the virtual IBM 360 mainframe that, technically, is available for folks to play with
)So the folks writing Trek wouldn't have assumed any kind of security on the files themselves. The only security we've ever seen is actual locks on documents (e.g. Pike's report on Talos IV). Khan was given the keys to the kingdom.
Indeed. Cultural attitudes do change, but the ability to understand humans on an emotional or mental level, as well as ways to use that to one's advantage have not really changed. And usually is quite helpful for people as they study history and past philosophers.
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