Spoilers Star Trek: Prodigy General Discussion Thread
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Yes, and he is actually onboard the ship, which I didn't expect.
The clip also touches on the Diviner's weapon that is supposed to destroy Starfleet:
It is called "the living construct" in the clip, and answering a hail may be enough to infect the Dauntless, according to Dal. Also, for some reason the bridge is at a lower temperature than normal, maybe that is connected to "the living construct" or to whatever is happening to Murf. Or the heater is broken 
Prodigy's premiere will be the same day as Lower Decks's finale.
I don't expect SNW until after Picard.
That night if you decide to watch Lower Decks first and then Prodigy then Prodigy would air after Lower Decks finishes it's run.
Yeah, they gave us a release date for Picard, but SNW just said 2023.
I would think that's another clue as to what species Murf is. Can anyone think of a deep deeeeeeeeep cut with something in an egg or chrysalis?Looking forward to seeing a Grown up Murph, even though that might be a little disappointing for Christmas season.
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I totally understand.
The Dauntless uniforms have changed a bit since the last episode. As has the Tellarite’s hair style
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That would make sense considering the Protostar crew also wore what looked like cold weather gear.
The Dauntless crew uniforms also look like formal dress wear to me... or at least, a combo of that and cold weather gear.
So, in that case it's possible both sets of characters went on an away mission to a cold environment? Allthough it's weird that Dal is even wearing gloves on the bridge and doesn't remove them. Maybe they are in such a hurry to get away that they don't, or alternatively the bridge of the Protostar is cold for some reason.
I've a question regarding the longer term arc of the show.
I've read an interview with one of showrunners/producers (it may have been Aaron Waltke) in which it was stated that 40 episodes (4 sets of 10) haven been plotted already, and further expansion is still possible should more be ordered. The first 10 had an arc regarding the Diviner and Tars Lamoro, and this was (for the time being at least) concluded in episode 10. The next set of 10, starting in october, will feature admiral Janeway hunting the Protostar as a sort of quasi-antagonist (though with good intentions, of course). Presumably, this arc will also be completed in episodes 11-20.
So, I wonder, how will the show make sure that the crew can stay together on the Protostar (assuming that is the intention for the first 40 episodes, but I think this is likely, with the possible extension then maybe changing things to another situation with the Protostar returning to Federation space)?
The most likely end for the Janeway-arc seems to me that there will be communication at the end, and quite possibly the Diviner's weapon will be neutered. If it isn't, that may give an excuse to keep them on the ship and away from the Federation for the next 10 or so episodes - but I think it is more likely the weapon will be overcome by episode 20.
So, what else is in play and could possibly be the main arc for episodes 21-30 and/or episodes 31-40? I can think of the following:
-Chakotay and his crew, but this will probably come up in 11-20 (I think Robert Beltran is credited with a number of episodes that suggests he will be in 11-20, given that his voice was used only in 2 episodes of the first 10)
-Dal's species/origins/parents (we may see Nandi again in relation to this arc)
-The Tellarite sleeper ship colony regarding Pog, and in a similar vein Zero and Rok will probably get a return to their respective societies at some point
-Solum and the first contact with the Vau N'akat
-The Diviner may yet return in some form
In a leak that proved accurate in its other predictions, it was said that a hitherto unknown Vau N'akat would masquerade as a Starfleet ensign with a goal similar to the Diviner (possibly part of "the order" as referred to by Drednok). This may be the Trill ensign on the Dauntless, which could cause all sorts of trouble
I think that the eventual resolution of the entire Vau N'akat situation will likely be the end of the 40 episodes, with Dal's origins likely also being resolved within the last 20 episodes. One could see that either may require the presence of Gwyn and Dal respectively, but I'm still having trouble why Starfleet would let them (and the others) gallivant across the galaxy in one of their own advanced prototypes. And I suspect Federation scientists would be eager to meet and examine Dal (assuming his species is unknown also to them), and Gwyn with her unusual abilities even more so.
Any ideas?
Yes.
I also figured that either both crews were either in a cold environment or the bridge of the Protostar was cold because of Murf's 'evolution/hatching'... or both.
As far your prediction goes on how the events could turn out... I figure its a solid good enough guess.
My guess on how they can keep the kids together on the Protostar is by Chakotay's return and him re-assuming command of the Protostar and turning the kids into REAL/official SF cadets.
Barring that possibility (due to potential pscyh issues Chakotay and his crew might encounter as a result of their encounter with the Diviner and being displaced in time) they could be replaced by higher ranks from the Dauntless or someone else from VOY).
Mulgrew did indicate she wants Prodigy to reunite the entire VOY cast on Prodigy... so, there's a huge potential for story telling here with other VOY crew.
Having Chakotay resuming his captaincy of the Protostar after the ship and kids go back to the Federation for official debrief (Say a few months - could just be a few lines of dialogue that cover this between seasons) would be cool.
Would be nice to see Beltran taking a more active and meaningful role for a change.
There is also the possibility that the 'living construct' might never be neutered, but the kids DO manage to communicate with the Dauntless and SF somehow and explaining the situation.
After this, Janeway stops hunting them, and SF might dispacth a special team to try and figure out of a way to disable the Diviner's weapon and a contingent of SF officers is sent on the ship to explore... with the kids in tow and (again) becoming real SF cadets.
There's still that Vau'KaNat spy being disguised as a SF ensing (I also suspect the Trill ensing we saw).
The whole time loop and the fate of Solum will also need to be addressed... I doubt it will change (otherwise, the entire events that happened with the Protostar would never occur)... so I don't think we can expect a 'temporal reset' this time around.
Chakotay may well return within those next series of episodes, and maybe he has reasons to keep the teens/children aboard. But I doubt that would "working by the book", given that the Protostar (if and once the weapon is neutered) can easily return to Federation space for refit and replacement crew. Even if not, personnel from the Dauntless could come on board.
As for the time loop, I would hope Starfleet wouldn't decide they will keep everything about the Diviner secret and not interfere with coming exploration missions in the region where Solum is likely located (no warning/instructions for the officers involved), in order to protect a future timeline that has already been altered anyway (given Tars Lamora and everything around it, Gwyn wouldn't even exist without the time traval). If they would go that route, Gwyn is likely to take issue with that as her ambition will likely be to stop the civil war on Solum before it even begins (once she gets her memory back). I also think a kid's show is likely to have a good ending.
I wonder how Okona gets involved. In novels of David Mack, who is an advisor on the show, he apparently worked for Starfleet Intelligence at some point.
As an aside, Billy Campbell slipped something (not related to the main plot) about Okona on Prodigy (though at the time, many thought he may have been confusing Lower Decks and Prodigy, we now know it was indeed Prodigy):
A female character sorta goes "over the moon" for Okona, and the main male character is not amused. Billy Campbell, who is a great actor in such series as Cardinal, seemed to think it was a comedic scene. I'm not fond of the "Outrageaous Okona" episode, but Campbell also said his lines in that episode were very bad. I hope this is handled better in Prodigy.
Novels which have now been established to be an alternate timeline which was devoured and had its very existence negated.
Granted, there's Lower Decks to consider which does show Okona was allowed to attend the prestigious party which only Starfleet's social elite could. And in Prodigy Okona does have the same eyepatch he had in Lower Decks.
David Mack wasn't devoured though, and he has influence over Prodigy. His chimerium made it in the show, and he was likely the one who suggested the involvement of Okona. That doesn't have to mean he would keep the Starfleet Intelligence background, but it is a possibility.
Don't post things like that unless you have absolute proof of it. There's no reason to think a creative consultant is the one who suggested including a particular character. Simply put, creative consultants don't get input over story content like that.
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