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What are your controversial Star Trek opinions?
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I'm 37 and watched Star Trek all my life. And it no longer holds a 'place of reverence' for me because I grew up and stopped treating it like something other than what it is - a tv show.
I had major issues with the Abrams films, but I highly enjoyed Star Trek Beyond. I was deeply disappointed by Discovery after a promising start, but I quite like Picard and Lower Decks.
It's ok to like the new stuff when it entertains you and to not like it when it doesn't. And it's ok to not like it at all. But the exact same thing is true of all the old stuff you and I grew up on and those shows were not in any way less 'commercial' nor were they at all representative of some sort of golden age of writing.
Well, that's a difference for me. Star Trek is special but never had a place of reverence. There is no media property that commands my reverence.
You and I have very different experiences with Star Wars fans.
I advocate people not watching all the time here.
Star Trek was it for me. I can’t stand most tv now. I was just hoping they would spare Star Trek but they didn’t.
Why would they? This is like expecting a band to sound like their debut album after 30 years. It's impossible.
My advice is to tune out the newer stuff that isn't to your liking; there have been more than a few franchises that I've had to step away from because the modern directions they took ran contrary to what made them stand out/unique.
That’s a good point. Star Trek was different. Now it’s generic to me.
Eddie, are you by chance related to Paul Hardcastle?
Oh, see NOW I get the reference. Can you tell Paul Hardcastle isn't an everyday name for me?
Sorry about that. The hair's groovy, though.
Oh, see NOW I get the reference. Can you tell Paul Hardcastle isn't an everyday name for me?
Nor I; I only (relatively) recently discovered his music. That said, kudos for the response!
Always nice when the Get Off My Lawn crowd stops by…
The lawn mows itself.
Been doing that since Ds9 and Voyager.
Hot take time. Everything's about nostalgia. Remember Star Trek? That's modern Trek. Remember Avengers? That's current-day Marvel.
The stories are almost all reheated leftovers, we've seen it all before over the past 56 years. It's nice comfort viewing, it's diverting. But is it must-see? Paramount get my money every month, so they'll be happy. It's fine. I like it. But when was the last time you thought, holy shit I NEED to know what happens next? Disco S4 and Picard S2 were steps down from previous seasons. Is it still art, or is it becoming what I feared, content for the sake of contractual obligation?
The stories are almost all reheated leftovers, we've seen it all before over the past 56 years. It's nice comfort viewing, it's diverting. But is it must-see? Paramount get my money every month, so they'll be happy. It's fine. I like it. But when was the last time you thought, holy shit I NEED to know what happens next? Disco S4 and Picard S2 were steps down from previous seasons. Is it still art, or is it becoming what I feared, content for the sake of contractual obligation?
The latter I think. Streaming services need to keep churning out content to keep people subscribed.
I haven't felt that way in nearly 15 years regarding most TV shows, save for a couple hear and there, none of which were SF related. So, I think that says something about me than current TV.
Star Trek died the day it went into syndicated reruns. They cut at least four minutes of content out of each episode. We all died that day.
In modern TV and movies in general? Lots of times (including from Marvel).
In Star Trek specifically? Almost never regardless of era. Most of the best Trek stories were never sitting on the edge of your seat adventures in the first place.
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