Reminds me of the Nox from Stargate.
Spoilers Lord of the Rings TV series
- Thread starter Cyrus
- Start date
According to the legendarium, Elves are eventually re-embodied in the Halls of Mandos after a time determined by the Valar. Elves that stayed in Middle-earth too long would become invisible spirits over long ages of time. Only one man was re-embodied in the Halls of Mandos and that was Beren. The second time he died he went to the place reserved for Men known only to Eru.
Last edited:
You will definitely change your mind when the Odell family shows up
Who?You will definitely change your mind when the Odell family shows up
I'm rewatching this right now and at the very beginning young Galadriel having a conversation with her brother about the paper boat she made and sinking stones and asked how would she know which way to follow. her brother bent down and whispered something in her ear. That must have been part of the reason she jumped ship also. I think she was remembering back to that moment when she was on the boat. I will get to it...
Finrod whispers "Sometimes we cannot know until we have touched the darkness".
Halbrand states "Looks can be deceiving" and his musical leitmotif is reportedly an inversion of that used for Sauron, who has the ability to shapeshift in the Second Age. Might be significant, might not.
Halbrand states "Looks can be deceiving" and his musical leitmotif is reportedly an inversion of that used for Sauron, who has the ability to shapeshift in the Second Age. Might be significant, might not.
Halbrand looks like an ass. I don't like him.
The Elves are all resurrected by the end of days after the Dagor Dagorath (final battle). There will then be a second Music of the Ainur, where Men and Elves will help the Ainur sing into being a new world.
Ok, so I decided to watch the show as it came out....and I think its really good. I recently got really into watching LOTR lore videos on youtube, and it turns out the Silmarillion and other auxillary material have some really cool stuff, assuming you have someone to translate it into coherent summaries that made me want to watch the show, and I've enjoyed it a lot so far.
Ironically binge watching lore videos has made me notice a lot more of what they had to leave out/change, and I can't say they're all improvements, but overall there hasn't been anything that was bad/annoyed me enough to take me out of the show. Yeah, Valinor shouldn't need a mystical portal to reach yet, and the proto hobbits make no sense, but its not a huge deal. I definitely prefer the Elf stuff to the Proto-Hobbit or Elf/Human romance plots, but that doesn't make those other two story lines bad. The dwarves are very interesting, although I don't know if they have their own story thing or if its connected more directly to the elf stuff yet.
I think Galadriel is great, both the actress and her depiction. We're thousands of years away from "Calm, ethereal" Galadriel, and her motivation here is interesting and makes sense. I do wish we'd get at least a throwaway line about her having a family, it could even get tied into her obsession with finding Sauron, but maybe Celeborn and Celebrían aren't including in the convoluted rights package Amazon got? Regardless its not a character ruining thing, just a bit odd.
Overall the show has really won me over, and I'm glad that we seem to finally have a good Fantasy show on TV, especially one based on Tolkien stuff.
that made me want to watch the show, and I've enjoyed it a lot so far.Ironically binge watching lore videos has made me notice a lot more of what they had to leave out/change, and I can't say they're all improvements, but overall there hasn't been anything that was bad/annoyed me enough to take me out of the show. Yeah, Valinor shouldn't need a mystical portal to reach yet, and the proto hobbits make no sense, but its not a huge deal. I definitely prefer the Elf stuff to the Proto-Hobbit or Elf/Human romance plots, but that doesn't make those other two story lines bad. The dwarves are very interesting, although I don't know if they have their own story thing or if its connected more directly to the elf stuff yet.
I think Galadriel is great, both the actress and her depiction. We're thousands of years away from "Calm, ethereal" Galadriel, and her motivation here is interesting and makes sense. I do wish we'd get at least a throwaway line about her having a family, it could even get tied into her obsession with finding Sauron, but maybe Celeborn and Celebrían aren't including in the convoluted rights package Amazon got? Regardless its not a character ruining thing, just a bit odd.
Overall the show has really won me over, and I'm glad that we seem to finally have a good Fantasy show on TV, especially one based on Tolkien stuff.
That's basically saying they will be resurrected in Heaven. It's quite different than, hey, give us a couple months and you'll be re-alived no problemo
It's different from humans and other races though because Elves know with 100% certainty what happens when they die.
I let calls go to voice mail all of the time.
Not really. Seemed pretty standard to me.
The reason why Ar-Pharazôn attacked Valinor was his wish to acquire the same assuredness of eventual eternal life possessed by the Elves. A mere several hundred years of corporeal existence without knowing for certain what would happen thereafter was unsatisfactory to him after Sauron had placed such thoughts in his head.
Unlike Elves, Men have free will and are not constrained to the paths permitted by the Music of the Ainur. That is the reason why their destinations after physical death differ. Eru's plan is for Men to add unique elements to the Second Music that he himself could not envisage - the First Music of the Ainur effectively being formed from the mingling of separate fragments of his own consciousness. In a way Men are autonomous, unconstrained entities that allow Eru to expand the bounds of his experience. (Put like that, it sounds a bit like the Matrix - although humans are being used as computation engines for exploring what is possible outside the bounds of a supreme being's imagination rather than as mere batteries.)
That's how I interpret the legendarium's theosophy anyway. I might well be incorrect.
Last edited:
I didn't really catch that first go around.
I am liking it even more after watching it again. So I think it's a keeper.
Nori is my favorite character for now.
Ok, so I decided to watch the show as it came out....and I think its really good. I recently got really into watching LOTR lore videos on youtube, and it turns out the Silmarillion and other auxillary material have some really cool stuff, assuming you have someone to translate it into coherent summaries
Ironically binge watching lore videos has made me notice a lot more of what they had to leave out/change, and I can't say they're all improvements, but overall there hasn't been anything that was bad/annoyed me enough to take me out of the show.
Amazon cannot go near The Silmarillion. They only have license for the Appendices. They cannot include any lore or info that is contained within that book or any other book except the Appendices.
Last edited:
Wow, I totally forgot about that.
I like this interpretation! It gives a reasonable theory as to why "Men" have free will.
Yeah, I know, that's why I referenced them having a convoluted rights passage. I'm just not sure what is specifically in the appendices compared to the Silmarillion or other works, since there is obviously some overlap, so while I can guess a lot of what they can't use, I don't know all the specifics, like how much of Galadriel's backstory was in the appendices compared to other works.
Similar threads
