Now THAT I would like!
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Now THAT I would like!
He probably won't be a one-off regardless of whether he's 616 Reed or not. This is the Multiverse saga, after all.
And I think the other characters in that group make a much stronger argument that he is not 616 Reed than that he is. Patrick Stewart is not going to stick around long enough to be 616 Xavier. 616 Maria Rambeau is already dead, as is 616 Peggy Carter. And 616 Inhumans seem unlikely to even exist at all at this point. The only one of those characters that seems even remotely likely to be seen again in 616 (non-multiverse) storylines is Mordo, who just had to be there because he's the major Dr. Strange character who actually relates to Strange's history and because it would've been extra weird to not even have Ejiofor in the movie after the post credits scene in DS1.
New She-Hulk featurette with lots of new footage:
Yup, this show is going to be bonkers fun.
I hope Jen and Wong sing karaoke.
Yup, this show is going to be bonkers fun.
I hope Jen and Wong sing karaoke.
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It really was strange ( no pun intended ) that they didn't follow up with 616 Mordo. I can only assume there was a swerve from the original intentions for the sequel.
He was supposed to be in it and would have been made to cut off his own head by Wanda. They got as far as rehearsals for it but it was dropped as it gave away Wanda being the villain right at the start of the movie. It's in the making of episode on Disney+
So she does fully break the fourth wall, it seems. I wasn't expecting them to go quite that far. I thought they'd just establish that Jen had a habit of talking to herself or something. (When I was a kid, I often pretended I was a TV host narrating my life to the viewing audience. So maybe Jen could've done the same.)
That doesn't matter, the salient point is that the characters were played by the same actors as in 616, as was Mordo and Strange (and Black Bolt before his show was decanonized). So that points to creator intent.
That said I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out to be a joke for the fans.
Imo, the salient point is that none of them are intended to be seen again outside the multiverse stuff so why should we expect Krasinsky to be the exception to that?
We've literally already seen Cox as Matt Murdock in the last Spider-man movie. And he's in She-Hulk and he's already announced for Echo and Daredevil Born Again. It remains to be seen whether the 616 version of Daredevil is exactly the same as what we saw in the Netflix series or not, but acting like he's somehow going to be playing Ralph Bohner Sr. is completely ridiculous.
He was originally supposed to be stalking Wanda at the beginning and Wanda kills him. It was supposed to be one of those "oh, look how easily the villain of the last movie was dispatched" moments to establish how strong Wanda was. However, they decided to save the reveal of her being a villain until later.
If it's Matt Murdock who doesn't know a Foggy or Karen facing off against a Kingpin with powers, then this is weak stunt casting. It's not the same character in any way, and having the same actor play him is not what anyone was asking for. If they just want a new character they can easily recast.
Anyway, I have more of a problem with the Multiverse of Madness cameos and ESPECIALLY the Pietro "recasting". Those were pure weak sauce.
I don't really see it as "stunt casting" myself but everyone I've seen has been asking to have Cox play DD in the MCU since the beginning.
Which I'm thankful for because that allows Mordo's story to continue more properly sometime in the future. Whenever that may happen...since the third Strange move isn't even confirmed yet (regardless of the post-credits set-up).
It would never happen, but a flashback series about the 19th or early 20th century of Wakanda (with that era's Black Panther) could be very interesting.
The point I was making wasn't just about 616, it was that all the Illuminati were played by actors who'd previously been connected with those characters, including Patrick Stewart and Anson Mount, or would continue to be in the future. None of the others were playing their character for the one and only time. So it seemed to me that Krasinsky would be the odd one out if he were only playing Reed the one time.
That did bother me, that the movie did nothing to advance the 616 Mordo's storyline. The first film's tag set that up as a major thread going forward, so it was a shame that it wasn't even touched on, except indirectly through a doppelganger.
It's not what YOU and other like minded people are asking for. On the other hand, there are people who have no issues whatsoever with the same actor playing a variant of the DareDevil/Mat Murdock we've seen sofar. You're creating a situation where your opinion is the leading one. This is not a fact, but a feeling.
I, and others, have no issue at all with Cox playing a variant. It's a fictional universe. It's all cool.
The Pietro recasting was brilliant.
Party on Garth!!
Yeah in the same way the Thor 2 is brilliant.
Is Peter Parker (and his supporting cast) the only character who we have seen played by different actors in different universes? Even in the Spider-Man movies JJJ is played by the same actor. Makes me think Parker is the exception not the rule, an opportunity too awesome to pass up. I note that the Parkers are born in different years, and look different. Any Character that's the same age as his or her counterpart looks the same.
I mulled the possibility of the MCU having Xavier and Magneto already dead, and looked like Stewart and McKellen, and bring back the "First Class" actors, but that's not fair to McAvoy and Fassbender. Keep in mind since both Fox casts are playing the same characters at different ages (Emma Frost and Sabertooth continuity aside), you could theoretically mix and match without breaking any multiverse rules. If you have McAvoy as Xavier in the 2025 MCU he will eventually look like Patrick Stewart in 30 years, but we've just established in Multiverse of Madness that Xavier is supposed to be an older Patrick Stewart in the MCU present. So if we follow Peter Parker rules, a younger Xavier can't be played by McAvoy, but if they fudged the "logic" I don't think anyone would complain.
I mulled the possibility of the MCU having Xavier and Magneto already dead, and looked like Stewart and McKellen, and bring back the "First Class" actors, but that's not fair to McAvoy and Fassbender. Keep in mind since both Fox casts are playing the same characters at different ages (Emma Frost and Sabertooth continuity aside), you could theoretically mix and match without breaking any multiverse rules. If you have McAvoy as Xavier in the 2025 MCU he will eventually look like Patrick Stewart in 30 years, but we've just established in Multiverse of Madness that Xavier is supposed to be an older Patrick Stewart in the MCU present. So if we follow Peter Parker rules, a younger Xavier can't be played by McAvoy, but if they fudged the "logic" I don't think anyone would complain.