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Spoilers Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler-heavy speculation thread

What grade would you give the Marvel Cinematic Universe? (Ever-Changing Question)


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Logan and the Deadpool movies are coming to Disney plus

https://www.theverge.com/2022/7/21/23272916/logan-deadpool-disney-plus

My vote for the title of Deadpool 3 is "Deadpool in the Multiverse of Madness".

Deadpool getting to do his stuff in the multiverse would be absolutely amazing. He could interact with anyone and just get to do wild stuff with whatever Marvel property they felt like without having to worry how Deadpool himself fits into anything. I doubt we'll get it, but its a great idea.
 
Get your salt shakers handy, ladies and gentlemen, because I take this one with a few grains of salt, but reportedly, there are plans to bring Chloe Bennett as Quake into the MCU. There will be nods to her Agents of SHIELD backstory, but the show itself will be treated as part of the multiverse. This is apparently being done with the blessing of the Agents of SHIELD creative team.



I'm down with this. In fact, while watching Loki season 1, I thought it would have been a neat aside if they showed Loki creating the Agents of SHIELD timeline to in part make up for his killing a good man in Agent Coulson.

I also recently read an article in which Ian DeCaestecker said that he has no real interest in returning to the character of Leopold fitz. He likes to believe that he and Jemma settled down far away from the crazy life and raised their kids.

https://comicbookmovie.com/tv/marve...-for-rumored-mcu-debut-a194887#gs.f93e.70z1h6

I'll just ignore any attempts to shove AoS into the multiverse, but it'll be great to see Quake again.

I largely agree about Agents of SHIELD, but placing it elsewhere in the multiverse means I don't have to do any mental gymnastics to explain season 6 and 7.

What gymnastics? The only things one has to accept is that they were lucky enough that the main characters didn't get snapped, and that they didn't specifically mention the snap a year after it happened while dealing with 3 separate alien invasions, two seeming resurrections of the lead character and an extended time travel adventure.

(Although it does leave the question of why the SHIELD team didn't use time travel to stop Thanos years before the Avengers did.)

Just because they could travel back to his time doesn't mean they had a way to stop the guy who beat the Avengers, GotG and entire Wakandan military.
 
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Would be hilarious if they retconned MCU Quake from an Inhuman to a Mutant, considering comics Quake got retconned froma Mutant to an Inhuman.

Oh, she was a mutant to start wtih? I didn't know that.

Except if the premise is that AoS actually did happen in a parallel timeline, it's hard to see how someone with the same name, appearance, and powers in both timelines could have fundamentally different genetic origins in both timelines. That's not how genetics works.

But then, I guess it's no more implausible than three different Peter Parkers having different ages and appearances, yet all miraculously having the same kind of accident with a genetically engineered spider, losing their Uncle Ben soon thereafter (in two of the three cases), and choosing to design very similar costumes with which to fight crime. Not to mention two of the three having involvement with people named Norman and Harry Osborn who become Goblins, all three going to Midtown High with a student named Flash Thompson, etc.
 
The MCU multiverse is doing the opposite of the many world theory, where the same people end up in slightly different circumstances.
The MCU has slightly different people ending up in the same circumstances.

Now I want to see the paint universe Spider-Man.
 
The MCU multiverse is doing the opposite of the many world theory, where the same people end up in slightly different circumstances.
The MCU has slightly different people ending up in the same circumstances.

It's the same thing the Arrowverse's Crisis on Infinite Earths did a few years ago, folding earlier screen adaptations into their multiverse as parallel worlds (West and Keaton Batman, 1990 Flash, Routh's Superman, Tom Welling's Clark, Ezra Miller's Flash, etc.). As Lex Luthor put it in Crisis, "The multiverse has a way of aligning fates."

I'm trying to remember if there are any earlier examples of crossovers that treated different actors who'd played the same character as alternate-universe versions. I have the impression there's something that did it, but I can't remember what. A borderline example is Cartoon Network's Ben 10, whose later seasons treated its live-action TV movie adaptations as parallel universes, even though the first movie was intended at the time to be part of the animated canon. And there are the original Spider-Verse comics, whose alternate-universe Spideys included adaptation characters such as the Japanese Supaidaaman and his giant robot Leopardon.


Now I want to see the paint universe Spider-Man.

A few seconds before the paint universe, they passed through a cartoon universe, with comical music. I feel like they missed an opportunity to make it the Into the Spider-Verse universe and have Miles Morales swing by. But I guess that wouldn't have worked, because then you'd need Sony as a producing partner on the Dr. Strange movie and it would've just been too contractually complicated. They could name-drop Spider-Man, but showing a version of him onscreen would be another matter.
 
In an interview with Den of Geek, Tim Roth talks about returning to the role of the Abomination. One thing in particular popped out to me: He teases that they play up the fact that he previously appeared alongside Ed Norton and not Mark Ruffalo. I'm curious to see how that'll work out.
They did a nudge-nudge, wink-wink moment in Iron Man 2 over the recasting of Rhodey, they're likely to straight up make a joke out of it in She-Hulk.
 
Well it wasn't toys this time but instead the European Intellectual Property Office (!) that has spoiled Marvel's upcoming projects. To wit they've just trademarked: "Avengers: Secret Wars" and "Avengers: The Kang Dynasty". Oh, and Captain America 4 is called "Captain America: New World Order".

Have a good SDCC Kevin!

https://euipo.europa.eu/eSearch/#details/trademarks/018736635
https://euipo.europa.eu/eSearch/#basic/1+1+1+1/100+100+100+100/kang dynasty
https://euipo.europa.eu/eSearch/#details/trademarks/018736639

Since they were literally registered today my guess is that they weren't expecting them to appear until after the weekend. Damn European efficiency!
 
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Oh, and Captain America 4 is called "Captain America: New World Order".

Coming off of the D+ series, Spellman's kind of storytelling & Sam's unique position as Captain America, the New World Order title reads like it will lean toward the more political intrigue side (rather than NWO as in Skrull control..ugh), which would be in keeping with the best Cap films, and that's very promising.
 
Season two of What If...? will come out in early 2023 and will feature a new assortment of characters including at least Hela, Shang-Chi, Red Guardian, Yelena Belova, Kate Bishop, Ikaris, and a road-warrior version of Agent Jimmy Woo, as well as the return of Peggy Carter.

But most importantly (at least to me), the season will also feature an episode inspired by Neil Gaiman's 1602 run! :eek:

There are also new images of Marvel Zombies, which has no release date.
 
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