Spoilers Season 2 predictions/discussion thread

[Sketcher]

It'll be interesting to see if they start to edge some of the characters into their season 1 finale personalities.

La'an beginning to lighten up. Maybe switching to gold depending on what happens to Una?

Ortegas beginning to er...lighten down and really start to test Pike's patience.

One argument could be that was an alternate reality, but Spock still seemed to turn out the same as he did in 'Balance of Terror'.

 

[Tuskin38]

That’s still 7 years out, I don’t think they’d change that quick

 

[carloss]

Less Ortega

A more disciplined crew, who don't talk back to their Captain

More interactions between Spock and Uhura, I was surprised we got so little. Spock should take mentorship of Uhura now that Hemmer is gone.

I will like to see Laan feel more like her future-self.

Chapel needs another plot line that to keep pinning over Spock. I see their story very similar to Buffy and Xander story from Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Xander was able to move on with Anya, Chapel should and would do the same with Roger Korby.

If they are planning to keep Paul Wesley as Kirk, he needs more acting lessons and I would love for him tp pack on the muscle. It is so ironic but I feel like Spock (Ethan Peck) has Kirk's bulk body while Kirk (Paul Wesley) has what should be Spock's body. Shatner was buff, Nimoy was lean.

Deeper episodes with deeper thought provoking meaning. Season 1 played it too safe with simplistic story and usually the last 20 minutes of every episodes felt very rushed. Strange new worlds is no Expense or Stranger Things. It is comfort food for now.

 

[The Wormhole]

Season 1 played it too safe with simplistic story and usually the last 20 minutes of every episodes felt very rushed.

Which is basically what Star Trek was in the 90s and what everyone spent the past five years claiming they wanted to see a return of.

It is comfort food for now.

Which has always been the intended goal of this show.

 

[Gary Bitchell]

Less Ortega

A more disciplined crew, who don't talk back to their Captain

More interactions between Spock and Uhura, I was surprised we got so little. Spock should take mentorship of Uhura now that Hemmer is gone.

I will like to see Laan feel more like her future-self.

Chapel needs another plot line that to keep pinning over Spock. I see their story very similar to Buffy and Xander story from Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Xander was able to move on with Anya, Chapel should and would do the same with Roger Korby.

If they are planning to keep Paul Wesley as Kirk, he needs more acting lessons and I would love for him tp pack on the muscle. It is so ironic but I feel like Spock (Ethan Peck) has Kirk's bulk body while Kirk (Paul Wesley) has what should be Spock's body. Shatner was buff, Nimoy was lean.

Deeper episodes with deeper thought provoking meaning. Season 1 played it too safe with simplistic story and usually the last 20 minutes of every episodes felt very rushed. Strange new worlds is no Expense or Stranger Things. It is comfort food for now.

1. Like Riker and Tom Paris? That kind of disciplined, never talk back to the captain kind of crew?
2. Chapel and Spock are not Xander and Anya.
3. Paul Wesley did fine. He doesn't need to change his body shape, unless it's to gain fat, because that's the only thing Kirk ever gained in TOS. Shatner's "buffness" is a figment of your imagination. And Paul Wesley has more muscles than Shatner ever dreamed of.
4. The shows are fine. Lord, If they weren't ~provoking thought~ it's because you didn't want to think.

 

[Tuskin38]

Less Ortega

No we need more of her. We didn’t get enough this season. Thankfully it has been confirmed we’ll get more in season 2.

A more disciplined crew, who don't talk back to their Captain

They are disciplined. They also don’t talk back that much.

han Peck) has Kirk's bulk body while Kirk (Paul Wesley) has what should be Spock's body. Shatner was buff,

Shatner was not buff. Someone posted a picture in one of these threads with 60s Shatner without his shirt on, dude was not buff. At least not by today’s standards.

 

[DaveyNY]

Shatner's "buffness" is a figment of your imagination

Ummmm Incorrect ... for the Era Shatner was considered quit fit.

It wasn't until Arnold started doing his movies that the standard drifted into becoming much more defined.
(and a lot more unreal for most guys)
Before that, very few actors were what you described as "buffed" because that was more of a beach body type.

And I agree with you about Wesley not needing to "fatten up".

 

[fireproof78]

Season 1 played it too safe with simplistic story and usually the last 20 minutes of every episodes felt very rushed. Strange new worlds is no Expense or Stranger Things. It is comfort food for now.

Nor should it be the Expanse. It's goal is comfort food. If you're expecting that you are setting up to be disappointed. A chunk of the fan base has been demanding episodic comfort food and SNW delivered. It's not going to change.

 

[Tuskin38]

Season 1 played it too safe

One of the producers said season 2 is going to play it less safe. They'll also be doing a story Trek has never done before.

 

[carloss]

1. Like Riker and Tom Paris? That kind of disciplined, never talk back to the captain kind of crew?
2. Chapel and Spock are not Xander and Anya.
3. Paul Wesley did fine. He doesn't need to change his body shape, unless it's to gain fat, because that's the only thing Kirk ever gained in TOS. Shatner's "buffness" is a figment of your imagination. And Paul Wesley has more muscles than Shatner ever dreamed of.
4. The shows are fine. Lord, If they weren't ~provoking thought~ it's because you didn't want to think.

1. Like a realistic crew will be on a ship. Riker will not have tolerated Ortgea. Picard will not have tolerated her either.

2. Buffy feelings were never fully returned, this was the same as Spock in TOS. I wish they had wrapped up the love triangle story line this season with Spock-Chapel-Tpring and Tpring who too my surprise turned out to be very kind of likeable. In another reality, she and Spock would have been an ideal Vulcan couple.
In A Quality of Mercy, I did see more of a mature colder Spock. A Quality of Mercy gave off the strong narrative that their relationship has now transformed to what it was in TOS. Chapel still pines.

A good word to say in the final episode, Ethan Peck and Celia Gooding did the most admirable job trying to portray and mimic their TOS Counterpart. For the first time in the show, SNW felt like a real prequel to TOS, although when I saw balance of terror again, I got to give it to Nimoy. Nimoy has an ease when he talks that Peck still has yet to capture.

3. Sweet heavens, Poor Wesley was terrible in the role.I don’t remember him been that awful on TVD. It was the actress who played Elena Gilbet (Nina Dobrev) that I always felt could not act but a quality of mercy really surprised me, how bad Paul was, just bad and lifless acting all around. Chris Pine blows him out of the water.

4. The show's fine but when you watch it and Strangers Things at the same time, It is a different topic.

 

[Tuskin38]

Riker will not have tolerated Ortgea. Picard will not have tolerated her either.

She hasn't done anything that would be intolerable.

Either way, Riker and Picard aren't Pike. Each person has their own commanding style. Pike is more lax.

4. The show's fine but when you watch it and Strangers Things at the same time, It is a different topic.

Because they're two different genres. Comparing them makes no sense.

 

[carloss]

Ummmm Incorrect ... for the Era Shatner was considered quit fit.

It wasn't until Arnold started doing his movies that the standard drifted into becoming much more defined.
(and a lot more unreal for most guys)
Before that, very few actors were what you described as "buffed" because that was more of a beach body type.

And I agree with you about Wesley not needing to "fatten up".

Ummmm Incorrect ... for the Era Shatner was considered quit fit.

It wasn't until Arnold started doing his movies that the standard drifted into becoming much more defined.
(and a lot more unreal for most guys)
Before that, very few actors were what you described as "buffed" because that was more of a beach body type.

And I agree with you about Wesley not needing to "fatten up".

Shatner was very fit for the 60s. The first shot of Paul Wesley, he looked so tiny and quited streched out. I started wondering maybe the chair was just too big for him but when he got up, he did look tiny-tiny although his acting performance was a lot more disappointing.


We can criticise Shatner's acting as has been done for decades but Shatner had a lot of charm and presence in the role of Jim Kirk from his early 30s, Paul Wesley is 40 and has been acting for a long time now. I expected more.

Mr Wesley came off as that stand in actor, waiting for Chris Pine to step into the role.

 

[Tuskin38]

his acting performance was a lot more disappointing.

His acting was great. He isn't Shatner.

 

[fireproof78]

1. Like a realistic crew will be on a ship. Riker will not have tolerated Ortgea. Picard will not have tolerated her either.

So what? Different leaders have different styles. And I have certainly benefited from managers who allowed me moments of frustration without reprimand. Pike's style is very much in line with what I want to be.

4. The show's fine but when you watch it and Strangers Things at the same time, It is a different topic.

I don't watch Stranger Things, and continue to not because it is used as a yardstick in a ridiculous competition.

 

[carloss]

His acting was great. He isn't Shatner.

He

So what? Different leaders have different styles. And I have certainly benefited from managers who allowed me moments of frustration without reprimand. Pike's style is very much in line with what I want to be.

I don't watch Stranger Things, and continue to not because it is used as a yardstick in a ridiculous competition.

Pike’s style is not common in any work place this is why it is not realistic. I feel some part of SNW will work better as show and not tell. The show is portraying itself as a very cool modern sci-fi series, well that is fine but you can show us this, you don’t need to tell us by overdoing it where the junior officers don’t respect their senior officers and the senior officers are fine with it because they are all in the same cool group. That is teeny-bopper writing.

You don’t have to watch Stranger Things.

 

[fireproof78]

Pike’s style is not common in any work place this is why it is not realistic.

You don't work in my workplace. So, I will flatly disagree on this point because my experience tells me otherwise.

You don’t have to watch Stranger Things.

Good, because it doesn't deserve it at this point.

 

[WarpFactorZ]

Since the alt-Pike future apparently has elements that become true in the prime universe (e.g. Una's arrest), and BTS photos show Kirk and La'an in downtown Toronto, it's reasonable to assume that La'an is transferred to the Farragut, which is (or is not) under Kirk's command.

 

[fireproof78]

Since the alt-Pike future apparently has elements that become true in the prime universe (e.g. Una's arrest), and BTS photos show Kirk and La'an in downtown Toronto, it's reasonable to assume that La'an is transferred to the Farragut, which is (or is not) under Kirk's command.

But, isn't La'an wearing an Enterprise badge in that shot while Kirk has a different badge?

 

[marillion]

Anyone have casting ideas for Samuel T Cogley?

Calling my shot right now... Toby Jones..

 

[Nerys Myk]

. Like a realistic crew will be on a ship. Riker will not have tolerated Ortgea. Picard will not have tolerated her either.

So what? Different leaders have different styles. And I have certainly benefited from managers who allowed me moments of frustration without reprimand. Pike's style is very much in line with what I want to be.

Exactly. I've worked for different types of bosses. I've been different types of bosses. Like McCoy with Kirk, Ortegas has some leeway with Pike. Perhaps we'll discover why in Season 2.