Looks like an alt-future Balance of Terror redux which had a wedding scene.
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There's a brief shot of a wedding at about 17 seconds into the Pike teaser. Even has the same thing on the wall as the BoT wedding.
Oh yeah! I remember thinking "Hey that looks like the scene in Balance of Terror" then, "uh oh."
Admittedly, I'm basing this only on one screenshot, but the Enterprise's chapel in SNW seems a bit overdesigned. The simplicity of the set in TOS definitely works a lot better, IMO. The chapel is basically supposed to be a ship-board church, but the SNW one looks like they decided to insert an entire cathedral onto the Enterprise.
They're in the cargobay, so it seems to be a temporary popup.
I wonder why they didn't do it on the lounge set.
That trailer was the nails in the coffin for me with SNW.
Why?
Okay, so I haven't seen the episode, so maybe I'm completely off base, but if the plot is, in fact, that Pike, through the magic of time travel, tells himself to get himself messed up because otherwise he'll botch the Romulan encounter, then it is possibly the dumbest, most unimaginative, and nonsensical plot I've yet seen in NuTrek.
The whole "Through the woowoo of Klingon time crystals, Pike knows his end is coming" was already wanky. Now we've got personal time travel, which frankly, everyone should be using at this point, and no timeline should be at all stable (and if that be the case, then there's really no stakes in watching the show since anything is possible from week to week).
Beyond that, does this mean Pike and his crew spend the next eleven years in identical positions on the Enterprise? Ending up in exactly the same situation such that we have virtually identical dialogue (and even a Tomlinson/Martine wedding)?
And does Pike really only have this one piece of advice for himself? Not, "here's how I screwed up this encounter--you might try something else. You have eleven years to figure it out. Oh, and by the way, the Romulans are building cloaking devices and the plasma torpedo..."
Beyond that, SNW just can't stay out of TOS canon despite predating it by more than a decade. The very first episode, we have M'Benga and Chapel and Uhura and Kyle and Kirk and Camina Noonian Singh and Gorns and T'Pring for God's sake.
Anyway, you asked. You're welcome to like the show, even to love it. More power to you. I was hoping for something better. Maybe on the 8th, you can tell me my presumptions were wrong, and it's actually brilliant. I'll be happy to eat any avian you like.
But based on that trailer (and boy, did Mount fail to impress in that scene), I doubt I'll need a knife and fork come Friday.
He could jump through a stone doughnut and meet himself as child.
Not seeing the problem. If it a good story who care how may TOS references are in it? We have a Kirk, but not the Kirk.
Clip from finale:
The scene seems ripped from "Balance of Terror". But I thought Kirk and co were surprised by the Romulans and the plasma weapon. How could Pike and Enterprise already learn about it years before Balance of Terror?
True!
Well, the first ep warn't all that great an episode, and it leaned heavily on its canon crutches as a way to make up for it.
As for why shoehorning TOS into SNW is bad, mostly it's lazy, and it makes the universe a lot smaller. It also makes the continuity a lot harder to reconcile. It basically destroys the plausibility that SNW is actually a prequel. It's more of a side-quel a la Abrams Trek.
But even watched that way, the pilot, at least, was thoroughly mediocre. Watching Season Six of "The Expanse" the next weekend just underlined it. That was good stuff (and reassured me that I don't not like new Trek just because it's new).
See my post above.
Read the brief synopsis for the episode in the review thread, it basically explains it. We’re seeing an alternate future where Pike doesn’t have his accident
Nope.
I bow to your superior logic. Well played, sir!
That actually started with TNG and has been a continuing theme off and on for the last 40 some years.
It has become a Feature of Trek.
Why is it now a problem?
Small Universe isn't the problem.
Closed mindedness is.
It isn't now a problem. As you note, it's always been a problem. "The Naked Now" is perhaps the most egregious (and decried) example, but for the most part, the crossover appearances are some of TNG's weakest entries. Notable exceptions are the two Sarek episodes, which make sense in the context of the universe (Vulcans live a long time; Sarek is an important person who might be encountered again). Plus, Lenard and Stewart were a joy to watch together.
I think a show like Starship: Exeter found the best balance -- some reference to canon, but forging its own path.
Mazel tov!