Spoilers 'Obi-Wan Kenobi' series [Spoiler Discussion]

[fireproof78]

I don't see this point of view, personally. Opinions will vary, sure, but just about everything Kennedy has taken a direct hand in has turned into a train wreck, while Filoni and Favreau have arguably saved it for Disney with The Mandalorian. Maybe it's just a matter of my own fandom running parallel to theirs, but those guys GET Star Wars the way only someone who saw the original when they were a pre-teen or teen can get it.

If Mandalorian is saving Star Wars then I'm definitely on the outside going, "Yeah, no thanks."

I don't want people who "get Star Wars." I want people telling interesting stories inside the SW universe.

So, having them running the company side sounds like a terrible plan, akin to fans running a fan film and not running the business side. As I said, I don't trust them that much. They are on a tight leash thus far, with Obi-Wan being the only spark of full interest for me.

 

[Jedi Marso]

If Mandalorian is saving Star Wars then I'm definitely on the outside going, "Yeah, no thanks."

I don't want people who "get Star Wars." I want people telling interesting stories inside the SW universe.

So, having them running the company side sounds like a terrible plan, akin to fans running a fan film and not running the business side. As I said, I don't trust them that much. They are on a tight leash thus far, with Obi-Wan being the only spark of full interest for me.

Yet Obi-wan sucked balls, for the most part. I can see that this will not be decided by our knowledge of the Force, but by our skills with the lightsaber...

 

[fireproof78]

Yet Obi-wan sucked balls, for the most part. I can see that this will not be decided by our knowledge of the Force, but by our skills with the lightsaber...

Obi-Wan at least felt connected to the larger nature of the Force, vs. other shows which say they are about one thing but really are just a roleplaying scenario playbook.

Fought well you have.

 

[Ithekro]

Too late for that plot-thread now, but before the prequels, I always imagined that Owen or Beru might be a sibling of Kenobi's. It would have made sense in world where Anakin Skywalker didn't grow up on Tatooine with his mother marrying Clieg Lars. It would also explain Owen's seemingly innate dislike of Kenobi, inasmuch as he considered him a danger to Luke.

What if instead Kenobi's brother had a daughter that married Palpatine's failed clone and produced Rey? Just a random spitball cast out again.

 

[thribs]

Vader should have won. He has a terrible win rate now. How I'm I supposed to take him seriously now.
At least he didn't lose to a Padawan like Maul.

 

[Reverend]

Does killing Darth Vader / Anakin really solve anything? Palpatine is the problem. If Vader falls, I'm sure he's already got a backup apprentice candidate in mind. Probably not Luke at this point, but I'm sure there is somebody.

Like Ahsoka, Obi-Wan realized that he could not save Anakin, only destroy him, and they chose not to do that. In the end, it was the proper decision. Anakin, the chosen one, brought balance to the Force by destroying the Emperor, just as the prophecy foretold.

I think my biggest gripe with the series is how much they borrowed from other canonical sources rather than come up with something completely new. Obi-Wan's assault on the Inquisitors headquarters came directly out of a video game and the duel in the finale was essentially reworking of the duel between Vader and Ahsoka in Rebels.

I don't disagree, however one way to look at it is that it bares a certain thematic similarity to Maul's story.
What I mean by that is that if you run through all of those events from Vader's perspective and in chronological order, suddenly it's less of a derivative story and more of a repeating pattern. Just and Maul got trapped in the same cycle over and over again, never really understanding what his mistakes even were (never mind actually learning from them!) So to is Vader trapped in place, having the same fights over and over, forever rolling that bolder up the hill, only to have it roll back down and start again.

That's a no on firing Kennedy and putting Filoni and Favreau in charge. I don't trust them that much.

More to the point: I don't think they'd ever want that job. It's mostly a series of endless business planning meetings. Not a lot of room for anything creative, and certainly no time to write and/or direct anything. Producers, especially EPs are mostly there as facilitators, and Kennedy is one of the best and most experienced in the business.

I don't want people who "get Star Wars." I want people telling interesting stories inside the SW universe.

I prefer those that can do both, personally.

 

[fireproof78]

prefer those that can do both, personally.

No doubt you'll get it.

 

[Dee1891]

"Obi-Wan Kenobi" is probably my favorite Star Wars Disney Plus series. However, it's a pity that Obi-Wan will never learn from Reva's experience and rise above his absolutism. From this point until four years after he became a Force ghost, Obi-wan was probably even more certain that Anakin was not the Chosen One and would never reject evil, as Reva had done. Obi-Wan never considered the possibility that Anakin could do the same in some unforeseen future. Great Jedi or not, it's not surprising to me that he had proven to be a poor mentor.

 

[fireproof78]

Great Jedi or not, it's not surprising to me that he had proven to be a poor mentor.

The two are not exclusionary. That's literally his story.

 

[Relayer1]

People talk about Filoni in hushed terms but I don't like Clone Wars and Rebels. I do like Mando but Fett not so much. Kenobi was a bit low wattage but...OK.

There's not very much convincing me that SW is in rude health. Any good film work in Last Jedi and Rogue One was utterly invalidated by JJ's two buckets of cinematic diarrhoea and TV ? It's averaging out at...very average.

 

[fireproof78]

at...very average.

My preference.

 

[Dee1891]

People talk about Filoni in hushed terms but I don't like Clone Wars and Rebels. I do like Mando but Fett not so much. Kenobi was a bit low wattage but...OK.

Look . . . I think Dave Filoni is a competent producer and writer. He claims that he understands Lucas' story. But there are times when I doubt this. I have mixed feelings about "The Clone Wars". I enjoyed "Rebels" a lot more, but there were times when I found it frustrating. As for "The Mandalorian", I'm a big fan, but . . . I think there is room for a good deal of improvement in terms of writing. As for "The Book of Boba Fett", it was okay, but I thought interrupting the story with two standalone episodes about Din Djarin and Grogu was a stupid mistake. It's a good thing I really enjoyed the finale.


"The Last Jedi" was a good movie? Yeah . . . I find that hard to swallow.

 

[Campe]

"The Last Jedi" was a good movie? Yeah . . . I find that hard to swallow

That’s an opinion. Everyone is entitled to theirs.

 

[fireproof78]

The Last Jedi" was a good movie? Yeah . . . I find that hard to swallow.

And yet here I am. I like it a little less than before bit still find it a good movie..

 

[Campe]

It’s got flaws for sure. But it’s pretty dang good in my opinion.

 

[TedShatner10]

That’s an opinion. Everyone is entitled to theirs.

And I noticed people in social media and fandom, etc, are starting to slowly push back against the boring Fandom Menace bullcrap with Obi-Wan Kenobi series (after they had the full run of the place since the ST petered out) and it's heartening to witness.

No idea how The Book Of Boba Fett turned out as very middling or mediocre as it did - while I get the impression Boba Fett had some kind of nervous breakdown in the Sarlacc pit and shift of character with his long stay in Sand People captivity, I felt he got too "nice" and trusting.

It was like Disney was afraid of a anti-hero with a brutal streak (they even changed the name of his ship), playing a bit too safe, not really knowing what they were doing, and the Book series just wasn't blasting on all cylinders like the Kenobi show did (let's hope they learn their lesson for S2).

 

[JD]

What exactly is Kathleen Kennedy's role with Lucasfilm? I always see people blaming her for the creative choices in the movies, but I'd been under the impression that she was more on the business side of things. The only credits I've seen her get are as producer, and as far as I can tell she hasn't written, directed, or even gotten a "story by" credit for anything. But some people seem to be acting like she's the one who came up with the stuff in the movies and shows that didn't like.

 

[Jedi Marso]

She's the CEO of Lucasfilm. The boss.

 

[fireproof78]

She's the CEO of Lucasfilm. The boss.

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[Tuskin38]

Fire Kennedy,

No, she's doing a fine job. She approved all the new stuff you enjoy.

Whoever replaces her will do the same thing, approve things you dislike and like.