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Spoilers 'Obi-Wan Kenobi' series [Spoiler Discussion]

And why did Palpatine take so long in breaking up the Senate? He had waited 19 years before he did this. I wonder why.
What else was he to do? He had to establish his power base, and popular support from several worlds. They were not so far removed from the Separatists and world's had to be united with promises of political power.

@Reverend linked a video about the keys to power. No one rules alone.
 
I'm thinking maybe the Senate and Mon Motha will say something like "We're tolerating the Empire, but if you touch Leia again there will be full scale war".

By the time ANH, Vader is probably emboldened enough to kidnap her because he knows the senate is all but gone. He tells Tarkin "He is here...." and Tarkin knows who he's talking about so Vader might have said to Tarkin earlier "Bet you any money now we have Leia, Obi-Wan will turn up...."
 
I'm thinking maybe the Senate and Mon Motha will say something like "We're tolerating the Empire, but if you touch Leia again there will be full scale war".

Yeah, no. I don't think a single girl would be the straw that would break the camel's back in a massive, repressive, militaristic totalitarian regime.

"Well, okay......but if you mess with that one girl again, forget it!"

By the time ANH, Vader is probably emboldened enough to kidnap her because he knows the senate is all but gone. He tells Tarkin "He is here...." and Tarkin knows who he's talking about so Vader might have said to Tarkin earlier "Bet you any money now we have Leia, Obi-Wan will turn up...."

He's emboldened because he caught Leia red-handed acting as a rebel agent.
 
He's emboldened because he caught Leia red-handed acting as a rebel agent.

Red handed?

Red handed would have been if she was holding the death star plans when she was arrested.

Hmmm.

If those Storm Troopers got the plans in the opening act... Would Tarkin have let the Senator go?
 
Weren’t jedis not supposed to have children or at least not supposed to be attached to them?

This is the thing that never made any sense to me. The films seems to heavily imply that Force sensitivity is hereditary, yet Jedi are supposed to be celibate? This is why I loved that Rian Johnson implied Rey's parents were nobodies. Obviously that only lasted until the next film!
 
Red handed?

Red handed would have been if she was holding the death star plans when she was arrested.

Ignoring the events of Rogue One, what we know in ANH is that Leia' ship received "stole plans beamed to it by rebel spies."

That's more than enough for a totalitarian government to consider you guilty, regardless of how high a position you might hold.


If those Storm Troopers got the plans in the opening act... Would Tarkin have let the Senator go?

Dear god, no. Why on earth would they do that once they had even MORE evidence of Leia's treachery?
 
Ignoring the events of Rogue One, what we know in ANH is that Leia' ship received "stole plans beamed to it by rebel spies."

That's more than enough for a totalitarian government to consider you guilty, regardless of how high a position you might hold.




Dear god, no. Why on earth would they do that once they had even MORE evidence of Leia's treachery?
Well, we are about to find out.

Whatever get out of jail free card Bail uses in episode 6, might still be in play 9 years later.

Beat cop tries to arrest a senator.

Chappaquiddick.

Vader doesn't care, and Tarkin out ranks Bail.

The biggest leverage/secret that the goodies can hold over Palpatine, seems to be that no one knows that he is Sith, or that he started the Clone Wars.
 
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This is the thing that never made any sense to me. The films seems to heavily imply that Force sensitivity is hereditary, yet Jedi are supposed to be celibate? This is why I loved that Rian Johnson implied Rey's parents were nobodies. Obviously that only lasted until the next film!
yeah, as much as I hated seeing Luke as a defeated grumpy hermit that movie at least tried to do several interesting things and had internal coherency. Too bad we ended up with more of JJ’s nonsensical pandering in the next.
 
Yeah, no. I don't think a single girl would be the straw that would break the camel's back in a massive, repressive, militaristic totalitarian regime.

"Well, okay......but if you mess with that one girl again, forget it!"
She's the daughter of royalty, not some random kid. Wars have been started for less.
 
It wasn't a coincidence when the Emperor dissolved the Senate as soon as the Death Star was ready.

The Vong Invasion explains the Death Stars.

https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Yuuzhan_Vong_War

Thousands of planet sized colony ships crossing the extra galactic void, full of bastards.

Young Palpatine figured out this death storm was 50 years from murderaping everyone he held dear, so he built an infrastructure, that could build death stars and rinsed out all the wishy washy hippies that might object to the murder of trillions of dirty foreigners, while keeping their borders secure.
 
She's the daughter of royalty, not some random kid. Wars have been started for less.

But she's not going to be a breaking point for a bunch of democratically-minded politicians who are appalled at the cruel dictatorship their government has become. "Well, we know you're a bunch of vicious, murdering tyrants and we'll let it slide as long as you don't mess with this ONE kid again!" Come on.....
 
But she's not going to be a breaking point for a bunch of democratically-minded politicians who are appalled at the cruel dictatorship their government has become. "Well, we know you're a bunch of vicious, murdering tyrants and we'll let it slide as long as you don't mess with this ONE kid again!" Come on.....

Are we so sure that senators are democratically elected?

Palpatine and Amidala had the same job, voted in by the constituency, then probably worked from the same office and lived in the same housing, but not at the same time... Or they were appointed by the democratically elected Queen?

The Senators job is analogous to a UN Representative, which is an appointed job.

Amidala served two terms as queen, and by the conclusion of her second term in 28 BBY,[23] the Naboo had grown so fond of Amidala that a faction tried to amend the constitution to allow her another term. However, Amidala declined this and stepped aside for her elected successor, Réillata, though Amidala privately supported Jamillia in the election. Not long after her coronation, Réillata asked Amidala to serve as the representative for Naboo and the other worlds in the Chommell sector in the Galactic Senate, a request that Amidala ultimately accepted.
 
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