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Spoilers Sybok

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Among the character threads we already have for SNW, now we can have one for Sybok! His return to the screen has already created mixed emotions for fans, but since we've already gotten to know his mutinous adopted sister, we might as well get to know his renegade half-brother a bit better while we're at it.

In the TNG episodes "Descent," we see Data being fed negative emotions - and only negative emotions. That leads to dark & destructive consequences for all, but all along, he's encouraged by our heroes to explore other emotions because negative emotions aren't the only ones that exist. Not all emotion leads to such horrific ends.

Also in TNG, even though Spock wanted to bring the gospel of logic to Romulus in "Unification," there were hints that the Romulans could also teach the Vulcans a few things (when they weren't trying to invade their planet, that is). Eventually, that vision is imperfectly realized anyway in what comes to be known as Ni'Var, but no one said it'd be easy.

As SNW fleshes out Sybok in a deeper way, could we start to see a more well-rounded approach to emotion + logic, rather than having them destined to be opposites forever? A "both/and" approach instead of "either/or." It makes one wonder if Spock's more "human" moments throughout Trek were, in fact, him getting in-touch with the joy that does dwell deep within the Vulcan heart as well, as seen in ST:V.

[P.S. Mods, I figured that the thread title itself wasn't a spoiler, since Sybok has been known about for a few decades now. :)]
 
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I could picture a younger Sybok coming back from the Vulcan Science Academy on a break like a freshman coming back home from college and telling his younger siblings about the new ideas he's been exposed to. Spock in particular taking interest in his older brother embracing emotions since it's something he's had to struggle with since birth.
 
Just because ST5 wasn't a great movie doesn't mean SNW can't make the stories he's in here good.

I'm not a fan of the Star Wars prequels, but I greatly enjoyed how Anakin was fleshed out and developed into a well rounded character through CW. This is the same opportunity here and I'm looking forward to SNW taking that sow's ear of STV and turning it into a silk purse, at least in regards to Sybok
 
[P.S. Mods, I figured that the thread title itself wasn't a spoiler, since Sybok has been known about for a few decades now. :)]
But it shows up on the main page without even entering the SNW Forum (which is how I saw it) and therefore makes it obvious to anyone who hasn't seen the episode yet that Sybok is probably in the show or appearing soon, so you might want to change it to something more nondescript, like "The reveal at the end of episode 1x07" or something.

I'm not the mod here, so you don't have to, just letting you know for the sake of others who want to remain unspoiled. :)
 
But it shows up on the main page without even entering the SNW Forum (which is how I saw it) and therefore makes it obvious to anyone who hasn't seen the episode yet that Sybok is probably in the show or appearing soon, so you might want to change it to something more nondescript, like "The reveal at the end of episode 1x07" or something.

I'm not the mod here, so you don't have to, just letting you know for the sake of others who want to remain unspoiled. :)
Sure, that makes sense. I just remember there were Sybok threads in the Discovery forum in the past (which were speculative in nature), and there weren't issues with those in terms of people concluding that Sybok would therefore be in DSC. But that's also why I didn't title this one "Sybok Character Thread" like the other established characters threads, and left it kinda vague. For me personally, I dodge the forum altogether on release days until I've seen the episode. But if editing something would help, no problemo.
 
If, as I'm sure they will, they give him some sort of story arc on SNW I'm looking for some decent character development that ties on with the existing canon. I think they will, I like what they've done so far with the characters we've seen, and I'm very much developing some trust.
 
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Maybe we will also get to see Amanda again. I wonder who Sybok’s mum is though? It’s a shame that we can’t have any cameos from Michael Burnham if the whole family are going to be getting together at any point. It’s also a shame that they would have to recast Sarek again :(. Wasn’t there a point where Sarek and Spock stopped speaking for a *very* long time? Has the event or chain of events that stopped them speaking occurred by this point in the Star Trek timeline or are they still yet to come? I wouldn’t *really* want another recast of Sarek unless it was essential to the storyline though. :shrug:
 
Maybe we will also get to see Amanda again. I wonder who Sybok’s mum is though? It’s a shame that we can’t have any cameos from Michael Burnham if the whole family are going to be getting together at any point. It’s also a shame that they would have to recast Sarek again :(. Wasn’t there a point where Sarek and Spock stopped speaking for a *very* long time? Has the event or chain of events that stopped them speaking occurred by this point in the Star Trek timeline or are they still yet to come? I wouldn’t *really* want another recast of Sarek unless it was essential to the storyline though. :shrug:
Why do we have to recast Sarek again??
 
Maybe we will also get to see Amanda again. I wonder who Sybok’s mum is though? It’s a shame that we can’t have any cameos from Michael Burnham if the whole family are going to be getting together at any point. It’s also a shame that they would have to recast Sarek again :(. Wasn’t there a point where Sarek and Spock stopped speaking for a *very* long time? Has the event or chain of events that stopped them speaking occurred by this point in the Star Trek timeline or are they still yet to come? I wouldn’t *really* want another recast of Sarek unless it was essential to the storyline though. :shrug:

Spock and Sarek hadn't spoken together as father and son for 18 years by the time of "Journey to Babel," so the rift occurred ca. 2249.

"Mother, would you ask the Vulcan Ambassador to pass the salt? The plomeek soup is bland tonight."

"My wife, would you inform your son that his hand appears uninjured. He appears more than capable of retrieving the salt for himself."
 
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