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Taika Waititi to write and direct Thor 4

You could have fun with it being more serious. Winter Soldier for instance. A vastly more enjoyable and fun movie because it was more serious. It felt like a actual threat.
 
You could have fun with it being more serious. Winter Soldier for instance. A vastly more enjoyable and fun movie because it was more serious. It felt like a actual threat.
Also it feels like its something that could actually happen. Like if SHIELD and superheroes were real, Winter Soldier's story could actually happen. There are no universes in which Thor 3 would happen.
 
Also it feels like its something that could actually happen. Like if SHIELD and superheroes were real, Winter Soldier's story could actually happen. There are no universes in which Thor 3 would happen.
How would you know? Have you traveled the multiverse? :)
 
But if they’re not going to take seriously, why should I?


I think you might have backed yourself into a corner. You're talking about a comic book character. They don't all have to be dark and have lines like " It was providence!" and lean hard on the religious undertones.

If you're looking for a serious comic book movie you might have to look somewhere else.
 
I think there is a middle ground. I’ve read a few Thor comics over the years and I wouldn’t say they were dark, but I wouldn’t call them lighthearted as well.
 
You could have fun with it being more serious. Winter Soldier for instance. A vastly more enjoyable and fun movie because it was more serious. It felt like a actual threat.
I'm not really sure I'd call movies like The Winter Soldier fun. It's a great movie, and there is some humor, but not really enough for me to call it fun.
Also it feels like its something that could actually happen. Like if SHIELD and superheroes were real, Winter Soldier's story could actually happen. There are no universes in which Thor 3 would happen.
Whether or not something could actually happen is the absolute lowest thing on my list of expectations when I'm going to see sci-fi fantasy movie about Norse gods and a giant green rage monster, on an alien planet controlled by Jeff Goldblum at a rave.
 
Whether or not something could actually happen is the absolute lowest thing on my list of expectations when I'm going to see sci-fi fantasy movie about Norse gods and a giant green rage monster, on an alien planet controlled by Jeff Goldblum at a rave.

That's the point. There is no enjoyment in movies like that. There are no rules so shit just happens. It's cheap. Cheapest form of entertainment by far.
 
Not true at all, those kind movies still have their own set of rules they follow, it's just that the rules are different from the ones in our world.
 
I had high hopes for the character as he had great potential for some really epic scenes and battles - Norse mythology mixed with superheroics ( luckily they did away with the faux shakesperian English Thor spoke in the comics for a long while). We didn't really get epic stories, just a jumble of not that interesting stories and characters that fell far too short of potential.

Yep--the greatest Thor stories (in his own comic) from the Silver & Bronze Age of Thor (the Lee/Kirby - Lee/Conway/Buscema periods) were so much a series of grand, often dark stories that had weight, spoke its own language, and had little interaction with other Marvel characters. The first Thor movie held that promise, but was utterly blasted away from every appearance going forward, where he was just as Stark mockingly referred to him--"Point Break"--a dim, hammer-swinging faux surfer.

To make things worse they turned Thor 3 into a comedy movie :( I'm ok with Thor cracking a joke sometimes, it is entertainment after all, but this swung far too much into that territory and to me it just didn't make a good fit for the character.

Not at all. Thor in his first movie still had a character that was distant from humans--his manner and perceptions were alien to human, as it should be. His entire realm felt like it was its own universe, until the PTB had to go in the direction of never taking much seriously for more than ten minutes at a time.

I also don't have high hopes for Love and Thunder, it looks like another Thor comedy but Gorr is a serious enemy ( he is not called God Butcher for nothing) and i fear the tone of Waititi's comedy just won't gel with a serious enemy.

Same concerns.

But if they’re not going to take seriously, why should I?

Yep. If a character has been reduced to a self-effacing dope and is the butt of jokes when he's supposed to be a commanding hero (with some emotional flaws), then he's simply not going to be extended comic relief. That's not the essence of the character at his best.

Why take any Star Trek more seriously than "The Trouble With Tribbles"?

Bad example. That was one episode--but I'll toss in "A Piece of the Action" and "I, Mudd" as well, but three episodes out of 79 did not color the perception of TOS as some joke-fest. It was seen as the sci-fi drama it was meant to be. Contrast that to most of Thor's appearances, which are now borderline satirical than what the character is suppose to be.
 
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