Haven't been following the rumors about the film. I was just making a joke.
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Oh, I had forgotten about that rumor. Wasn't from last year sometime?
I'd be fine if those rumors about Namor ended up being true. Aquaman does kind of have a lock on Atlantis right now, and I've always thought that Namor needed a bit of a adjustment to be interesting in a non-comic context after the Aquaman film came out. Connecting where he's from with a different culture is an interesting way to do it.
This is an interesting case where the Marvel character actually appeared first. It is an odd turn of events because the first king of Atlantis may have to have his background re-written as the DC character is currently more popular.
I'm just saying if they want to go the Pacific South American route: the lost continent of Mu is right there . . .
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He can commiserate with Captain Marvel, err, Shazam.
Although, well... It's true that Namor was introduced two and a half years earlier, and that Aquaman's half-Atlantean identity was a Silver Age retcon. But Namor's undersea kingdom wasn't explicitly named as Atlantis until 1962, while Aquaman was revealed as half-Atlantean in 1959 (and his Golden Age origin made him a human who'd been taught lost Atlantean secrets for living underwater by his ocean-explorer father). So Aquaman was technically Atlantean before Namor was. Although Aquaman didn't become king of Atlantis until 1964.
Which would bring a nice balance between the two pairs. Shazam was the first Captain Marvel but had to go with a different name for the MCU film. Yeah, I know it's primarily because Marvel has the copyright to the name, but on the surface level to the average viewer, it looks like because of the MCU film.
And now Marvel might be making adjustments to Namor's Atlantean origins because DC got there first in the films, even though Namor was technically first in the comics (thank you for the nuanced history between the two which I hadn't been aware of).
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I think Marvel still comes out on top in this one considering 1) they invented their Captain Marvel out of whole cloth specifically to stop anyone else from using the name, and 2) If any major Marvel character needs a major rework and facelift regardless, it's Namor. I mean imaging being known mostly as "the even lamer than classic Aquaman knock off with the weird widow's peak haircut". Ouch!
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Some small updates for Loki S2
What's usually the length of time from start of production to airing with the MCU series'?
What's usually the length of time from start of production to airing with the MCU series'?
I wonder if he'll be a good guy or a bad guy when they introduce him? I know he goes back and forth a lot in the comics.
Is good or bad in the current comics?
Namor was the only character to sit on the councils of both the Illuminati and the Cabal and fit right in.Still both.
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Thanks for that history--I was unaware.
On another topic, listened to this guy talk about the bad CGI in Marvel movies (no mention of the She-Hulk Trailer):
https://www.cbc.ca/listen/live-radi...e-critic-drew-magary-investigates-bad-special
What that guy is saying is that poor CGI is not a matter of money or technology, but about how the system is set up for making big blockbuster movies come out "on time".
Depends. When it's just window dressing, it really doesn't matter. Some of my favourite things ever has ropey as fuck special and visual effects (even for the time.) Sometimes that's part of the charm!
However, when an effects element is central to the story, either a main character or plot point, bad effects can kill even a good movie.
For example, imagine for a second the movie Predator . . . if they kept the original wobbly head lobster costume they shoved Jean-Claude Van Damme into, instead of hiring Stan Winston at the 11th hour to come in and redo the whole thing from the ground up. I think it's safe to say that movie wouldn't have landed, or be remembered as well as it is today if the pivotal reveal was *that* wonky as all buggery rubber suit.
Also in this case all we've got to really discuss about the show right now is the trailer . . . and 60% of said trailer was wonky as all buggery deepfake shots. On top of which is the fact that these shows were advertised to be of the same production standard as the Marvel movies, which this clearly isn't, so I think it's fair game for criticism.
Honestly, I think that whatever makes Namor a villain won't be something irredeemable, I think the MCU are going to want to make Namor into a more heroic character at some point. I could see him being involved in T'Challa's death, but maybe its him getting framed, or in a situation where its not black and white. I really don't think they're going to go with the comic thing where Namor floods Wakanda and that leads to war, if only because even the comics have had a hard time trying to get Namor away from that event because it made him a bit too much of a villain (and he at least had the excuse of being possessed at the time).
That's just a guess though, but it feels like a waste to either make him a total villain, although I suppose Loki has proven that you can do a lot of evil stuff and still get at least some redemption in the MCU.