DC Movies - To Infinity and Beyond

[Christopher]

He's been in 33 animated movies, not counting shorts or cameos, and including the Super Pets movie.
12 live action movies, counting the old serials as one, skipping a short with George Reeves and the Turkish movie, and counting both versions of Superman II and Justice League as one movie.
6 live actions series, including Supergirl.
19 animated series, including shows were he was just recurring, and counting each Super Friends show individually.

We were specifically discussing live-action content, not animated. Plenty of superheroes have large amounts of animated TV content, but Superman has far more live-action content than most, which is the point.

And Supergirl is a distinct character from Superman. He only made a handful of appearances on her show.

 

[Anwar]

More nonsense. The Super Friends version does not erase that which preceded it

It's called the "Ink Stain Adaptation", where that particular portrayal tainted the character. That's what it did to Aquaman, and why so many writers went to extremes to undo it. Peter David started when he cut off Arthur's hand and made him more of a barbarian hero and then the TV shows and movies afterwards continued the process.

Why do you think they tried to include the "Boo-Yah!" thing for Cyborg in the movie? Because his portrayal in the animated series overshadowed his actual comics portrayal.

 

[theenglish]

It's called the "Ink Stain Adaptation", where that particular portrayal tainted the character. That's what it did to Aquaman, and why so many writers went to extremes to undo it. Peter David started when he cut off Arthur's hand and made him more of a barbarian hero and then the TV shows and movies afterwards continued the process.

Why do you think they tried to include the "Boo-Yah!" thing for Cyborg in the movie? Because his portrayal in the animated series overshadowed his actual comics portrayal.

Geoff Johns in his New 52 run, which was excellent, dedicated some panels to addressing Arthur's Super Friends rep by showing bystanders not realizing he was a bad ass. Snyder did something very similar with the talking to fish comment by Batman, although under Wheadon's hand that scene was played for comedic effect.

 

[TREK_GOD_1]

It's called the "Ink Stain Adaptation", where that particular portrayal tainted the character. That's what it did to Aquaman, and why so many writers went to extremes to undo it. Peter David started when he cut off Arthur's hand and made him more of a barbarian hero and then the TV shows and movies afterwards continued the process.

Funny. Long before Pozner or David's take on the character--at the same time the Super Friends was first-run on ABC, Aquaman in the comics was not written as a joke at all. Between his revived title, a feature in Adventure Comics and whenever he appeared in Justice League of America. The public's skewed perceptions were formed by Cartoon Network's spots satirizing the awful Hanna-Barbera cartoon, but he was not treated as a joke or useless character in the comics.

 

[Anwar]

Funny. Long before Pozner or David's take on the character--at the same time the Super Friends was first-run on ABC, Aquaman in the comics was not written as a joke at all. Between his revived title, a feature in Adventure Comics and whenever he appeared in Justice League of America.

And yet it was still ridiculously easy for his Superfriends portrayal to overshadow all that. Says a lot as to how well he was written before.

 

[Ovation]

And yet it was still ridiculously easy for his Superfriends portrayal to overshadow all that. Says a lot as to how well he was written before.

No. It speaks to relative exposure to the general public. One has no direct relation to the other.

 

[JD]

And Supergirl is a distinct character from Superman. He only made a handful of appearances on her show.

Oh, I know, I was including Supergirl because he was a recurring character on that, and I figured he made enough appearances I'd count it.

 

[TREK_GOD_1]

No. It speaks to relative exposure to the general public. One has no direct relation to the other.

Agreed.

 

[Christopher]

Oh, I know, I was including Supergirl because he was a recurring character on that, and I figured he made enough appearances I'd count it.

He was in 4 episodes of Supergirl (not counting the ones in the first season where it was just a glimpse) plus the 8 episodes of Elseworlds and Crisis on Infinite Earths. Not enough to make a statistically significant difference in the list.

 

[Mr. Adventure]

Oh, I know, I was including Supergirl because he was a recurring character on that, and I figured he made enough appearances I'd count it.

I'm sure if you had omitted it, it would've been noticed and mentioned.

 

[Anwar]

No. It speaks to relative exposure to the general public. One has no direct relation to the other.

You mean like how Batman was permanently reduced to a camp culture character thanks to Adam West?

Oh wait...

 

[theenglish]

He was a camp culture character until 1989.

 

[M'rk son of Mogh]

He was a camp culture character until 1989.

Exactly, that's the point. Things can be a joke to the public and then change with something they see as being more serious and well done. The characters aren't forever stuck tied to one thing from decades prior, or at least don't have to be.

 

[Ovation]

You mean like how Batman was permanently reduced to a camp culture character thanks to Adam West?

Oh wait...

Wait for what, exactly?

He was a camp culture character until 1989.

Exactly.

Batman was well-written and NOT camp in the comics going back to the O’Neil/Adams run in the early 70s at the very least, yet to the non-comics reading (and spectacularly bigger) crowd, Batman was camp. Your Adam West example PROVES my point.

 

[StCoop]

I sure as hell ain't picking sides in this fight but Amber Heard has confirmed that her role in Aquaman 2 has been greatly reduced.

https://www.murphysmultiverse.com/a...ole-as-mera-was-reduced-a-bunch-in-aquaman-2/

 

[Anwar]

Wait for what, exactly?

That one specific portrayal wasn't enough to taint Batman the way Aquaman was.

 

[The Realist]

I sure as hell ain't picking sides in this fight but Amber Heard has confirmed that her role in Aquaman 2 has been greatly reduced.

https://www.murphysmultiverse.com/a...ole-as-mera-was-reduced-a-bunch-in-aquaman-2/

 

[DarrenTR1970]

I sure as hell ain't picking sides in this fight but Amber Heard has confirmed that her role in Aquaman 2 has been greatly reduced.

https://www.murphysmultiverse.com/a...ole-as-mera-was-reduced-a-bunch-in-aquaman-2/

I saw on CBR that the petition to get Amber Heard removed entirely from the movie has reached 4 million signatures.

 

[theenglish]

That one specific portrayal wasn't enough to taint Batman the way Aquaman was.

That's just not true. Batman WAS Adam West in most people's minds up until Burton's Batman. You can see it in a lot of interviews for that movie when cast defended the "darker" take on Batman than what people were used to.

 

[Christopher]

That's just not true. Batman WAS Adam West in most people's minds up until Burton's Batman. You can see it in a lot of interviews for that movie when cast defended the "darker" take on Batman than what people were used to.

For most people, i.e. the general moviegoing public, yes. But the comics had been repudiating the Adam West version since 1970, and comics readers were probably glad to see a (relatively) more serious screen interpretation at last. Especially in the wake of Miller's The Dark Knight Returns and Batman: Year One in '86-7, which began Batman's super-dark turn in the comics, and were an aggressive reaction against the campy West version. The film's approach was directly inspired by the success of those comics and The Killing Joke.