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Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 2x07 - "Monsters"

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It made me a bit sad to think that in the future such problems cannot be cured definitively but they must continually resort to "meds".
 
It made me a bit sad to think that in the future such problems cannot be cured definitively but they must continually resort to "meds".

I dunno and I can only speak for myself, but I would definitely refuse this whole "cure me by erasing my mental illness" approach. I would turn into a completely different person without that which has defined my personality for as long as I can remember, and I wouldn't want this. I'd probably agree to get something that helps me cope with it (although convincing me of THAT is something no one has managed so far either, I can therefore see why Yvette apparently refused treatment) but that's where it would end for me.
 
Let's just face it, we all know this is how it's going to end....
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Why? Not everyone responds the same way to every treatment and Star Trek has continually demonstrated a variety of interventions, including medicinal.
I agree. Besides, I actually think any kind of definitive "cure" would probably involve forbidden genetic techniques, and speaking as someone who suffers from mental illness, I find such a prospect horrifying. I'll keep taking my meds, thanks.
 
Mental illness is akin to a time loop. The treatments tend to be hindered by the disease(s).
 
Yup, true. Even some of the anti-PIC arguments are the same all over again, the same as the ones they used against TNG. "Not my Star Trek", "it's ruining the franchise", "nothing makes sense" etc etc. And now that very TNG they once hated is the holy grail of Trek.

Once a decade or two have passed, people will use PIC as a shiny example of how Trek should be and how the Trek that is new then sucks and how "glorious it was when Sir Patrick returned to the franchise". I mean this is happening to ENT right now - all the haters of the show suddenly count it as part of their beloved canon even though back in the day they loathed every second of it and were furious at the mere idea of it being part of Trek canon.


Hey folks a new video just dropped right now analyzing the latest episode and it's very funny that I nearly fell of my chair and had to be restrained.

Fasten your seat belts for the best and the ride of a lifetime:-

Star Trek Picard 2x07 Monsters Review

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I dunno and I can only speak for myself, but I would definitely refuse this whole "cure me by erasing my mental illness" approach. I would turn into a completely different person without that which has defined my personality for as long as I can remember, and I wouldn't want this. I'd probably agree to get something that helps me cope with it (although convincing me of THAT is something no one has managed so far either, I can therefore see why Yvette apparently refused treatment) but that's where it would end for me.
I take a bi-polar ex of mine as an example. Once she forgot to take her meds and had a total meltdown in the middle of a tourist town road. And she wasn't happy about it. Is it possible that in 4 centuries there is nothing more reliable than "I recommend that you take these pills after meals"? And I'm not talking about "genetic therapies" or similar. If certain mental disorders are caused by biochemical imbalances, why shouldn't they be permanently cured? I've never seen a character in Star Trek take insulin and I'm pretty sure it's a non-existent disease in the future, even without having to resort to genetic manipulation.
 
Hey folks a new video just dropped right now analyzing the latest episode and it's very funny and amusing that I nearly fell of my chair and had to be restrained.

Fasten your seat belts for the best and the ride of a lifetime:-

Star Trek Picard 2x07 Monsters Review

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Stupid video.

Impressed to read, however, that it's both "funny" and "amusing;" my previous understanding of English vocabulary would have led me to think that the latter is implicit in the former. However, I'm glad that you were able to avoid falling out of a chair while watching a YouTube video.
 
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Stupid video.

Impressed to read, however, that it's both "funny" and "amusing;" my previous understanding of English vocabulary would have led me to think that the latter is implicit in the former. However, I'm glad that you were able to avoid falling out of a chair while watching a YouTube video.


How can it be stupid. The guy discusses it point by plot point and does constructive criticism and then gives very astute constructive suggestions.

Also how can you watch a video that size in that amount of time which means you could not watched it properly or have bias against the creator.
 
I don't have to eat an entire egg to know that it's rotten.

Access to a video camera and the Internet does not give "Nitpicking Nerd" any reasonable demand on my life and time.

You know, same principle as with those TL;DR episode "analyses" that you've taken to posting here.
 
It does seem odd that Guinan had this very important historical artifact. Maybe she's not your typical El Aurian and has some special status. Maybe she was a pivotal force behind the Q and El Aurian truce. There's a reason why Q finds her specifically dangerous.

The way she described the "summoning," I'm not convinced it was the actual truce bottle itself and not just a suitably metaphorical stand in. She compares it to finding the right note of music, one which she specifically says echoes the original, but is not the original, in order to achieve the desired effect.

Realistically, any bottle which held a significant enough place in Guinan's mind to allow her to find the resonant note would work. Probably any El-Aurian can accomplish the feat using any bottle with a suitable connection to their history/culture.
 
The way she described the "summoning," I'm not convinced it was the actual truce bottle itself and not just a suitably metaphorical stand in. She compares it to finding the right note of music, one which she specifically says echoes the original, but is not the original, in order to achieve the desired effect.

Realistically, any bottle which held a significant enough place in Guinan's mind to allow her to find the resonant note would work. Probably any El-Aurian can accomplish the feat using any bottle with a suitable connection to their history/culture.

I guess that's why Guinan is a bartender. Lots of bottles might mean lots of connections and lots of things that probably keep the fabric of the universe together. :)
 
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