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Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 2x07 - "Monsters"

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It’s obviously Ducane IMO. He’s trying to figure out exactly what’s happening with the timeline. My guess is he lets Picard go after he explains what they need to do to fix the timeline.
 
I'll go over your "list" later. But as for this post, to quote Luke Skywalker, "Amazing. Every word of what you just said... was wrong."

Instead of wasting your time defending the indefensible your time would be better spent on enjoying yourself and creating better memories.
 
Also, I’ll admit I found it amusing (or is it disturbing?) that Picard could potentially end up having a romantic relationship with a woman … and her great great great great great great grandmother. :lol:
 
I'm thinking that it will turn out this way: the doc and her son can't go and Rios can't stay. So when they retrieve Queen Jurati, she inserts them both back into the point in time before Rios drops (heh) in on them. We saw this happen in the resolution to the TOS episode Tomorrow is Yesterday.
Rios: So Teresa here's the deal. You and your son can come with me to the 25th century where he'll live a peaceful life, or I leave you both here where your son will in adulthood suffer horribly during World War 3.

Teresa: ***** you.

Rios: Hey, WW3 isn't my doing, I can't be blamed for that.
I posted this as a joke but it is true. Per Trek's timeline unless they are seriously altering it after this season, Teresa's son is going to suffer in WW3. The only way out is for Teresa and her son to go with Rios.
 
I think the "protect Renee" storyline is solved and over.

Well that was easy.

Actually, I think Renee may be in at least 2.10 since one of the actors who plays a Europa mission director and was at the gala has said she will be in that episode. If true, that means we are still in 2024 in the season finale!!! Oh man, if we don't get back to the future by the end of the season I think all hell will break loose LOL.
 
My questions & comments as I watched Star Trek: Picard season 2, episode 7 in real time. Thank you in advance for your time, and I encourage all comments.

**SPOILERS**


1)Well we can start with:- We open in what I assume is Picard's synthetic android subconscious, where we are treated to a psychiatric session of sorts whereby the imaginary shrink is looking to do a psyche analysis on an imaginary representation of our title character. Honestly the whole time I keep thinking that because none of this is "real" I don't care remotely about this conversation.

2) As if to almost double down, the show then seemingly gives us yet another dream-like scenario whereby we are treated to a conversation with an imaginary representation of Picard's mother & an imaginary representation of Picard as a boy. Once again, I can't help but be reminded that none of these details are anything other than fabrications. Fabrications I have no way of verifying to be true, especially since they seem to represent characters in a manner that runs counter to they have previously been established in Star Trek lore. And again, I find myself unable to give a damn about these fictional individuals whatsoever.

3) Where is Robert Picard?

4) Momma Picard tells Jean Luc that he's like his father in that he uses his hands instead of his mouth, and given the fact that the show seems hellbent on presenting Papa Picard as a physically abusive man I cannot help but think... What a dickhead thing to tell your child.

5) Back in the hospital, now morning. Where is Not Laris? Was she not working her magic MacGuffin device since the middle of the night? Why hasn't she solved Picard's mental block by now?

6) Seven suggests they still can't track down Ag-borg, so they finally have the bright idea to use the La Sirena's tech to track her. This immediately begs the question why Seven & Raffi - who were literally in the same room as Ag-borg during her cringeworthy solo - didn't also immediately grab the Daystrom Institute cyberneticist's arm when they heard Picard was struck down outside. But I know, I know... the show hoped we didn't notice to ask something like that.

7) Gee, sure hope the French cop didn't wake up and find the ship again. Or wonder why his neck is completely covered in bruises.

8) Gee, I wonder if any other French cops came out to look for their colleague.

9) Gee I hope the cloaking device is now actually working, but then again or else, you know... people might freak out and all.

10) Given the fact that Seven & Raffi were absolutely useless in Picard's ridiculous party crashing plan to begin with, I can't help but feel that at least ONE of these two could have stayed behind. You know, there being a ship with a cloak on the fritz and all that could easily have been discovered over the last 12 or so hours. But nope, this show insists on having really smart characters making the most incompetent decisions and doing the dumbest things.

11) Imagine how efficient it would be if a Seven was already at the La Sirena, maybe continuing repairs to the vessel in the event they needed to leave quickly or even made the smart decision to fly the cloaked ship in low orbit so as to evade further detection... Imagine how fast it would be for her to have detected Ag-borg wandering off from the party. Could maybe have even transported her & Picard to sick bay. Surely a powered bio-bed and her skills as a Daystrom Institute cyberneticist could have made short work on Picard's damage. And certainly could have avoided a doctor from 2024 potentially learning about Picard's futuristic body.

12) It was at this time when I wondered if anyone associated with our crew would fix that poor doctor's defibrillator...

13) I'm also still unclear how they got Picard to this hospital in the first place. It's obviously not exactly next door to where the fundraiser was held.

14) Holy crap. Not Laris only now enters the scene and we are meant to believe that she hasn't even started her work yet!? Bruh... the sun is legit up now. What the hell kind of sloppiness is this writing.

15) Raffi and Seven transport to the La Sirena and no explanation is given as to how they did just that. If anything this only further puts into question Rios' competence for not transporting Picard & crew to the ship like this in the first place. But no, we need a ridiculous excuse to shoehorn in the doctor again. Absolutely trash writing that makes what should be the most intelligent Starfleet officers look completely incompetent.

16) Raffi tells Seven she will "quit the gang" if Rios & Ag-borg start up a relationship again, and I suddenly find myself hoping that exact outcome will happen.

17) Come to think of it I know several Star Trek fans that were upset over a relationship in this show - when they learned Seven didn't even seem to remember Chakotay. I think many of them have since also "quit the gang".

18) And then without any reason whatsoever, Raffi suggests she wants to rekindle her "main attraction" relationship with Seven. A relationship we've never seen. A relationship we don't care about. A relationship we cannot possibly be invested in. A relationship that seems to exist for no reason other than to produce some of the worst situational dialogue between two characters I've ever seen in any Star Trek. Suddenly I'm thinking is it possible the writers are having a meta moment here? Do they want more of us to "quit the gang"?

19) Seriously could there be any other two characters in the history of television with less chemistry than these two!?

20) Raffi is actually chipper for once. Seems odd given that Elnor's barely cold corpse is only a couple dozen feet from her, but sure, talk about growing old Raffi.

21) Seven is shocked when her console shuts down. Again, this likely could have been avoided had she stayed behind from the fundraiser...

22) These two geniuses quickly figure out the Borg Queen has duped them, which given the incompetence of these characters, doesn't seem like a tall task to be honest.

23) Characters state that without ship they'll never find Ag-borg. Again, even if this were true (it's not, we literally just saw you figure it out with Rios) then maybe you two geniuses should have followed Jurati at the fundraiser. Especially since she is the least qualified amongst you to be left alone on a mission like this. But oh right I forgot you're incompetent.

24) Raffi says this ship is their only way home. Really? Not the omnipotent being called Q? Mmmkay. Also, maybe if you weren't written to be incompetent you'd have stayed behind on it to ensure something this contrived would never have happened.

25) Watcher again. About to "mind-meld" (her words, not mine) with Picard. And because the show thinks we're absolutely stupid people, she's literally wearing something ridiculous that evokes a Vulcan's ear. Are you actually kidding me show. Do you think we are so stupid that we need a visual design to connect the dots of what Vulcans do when they mind-meld, and what this Not Laris character does now? I'm so embarassed. I'm so embarassed that this is what Star Trek is today. A metal device that just so happens to look like a Vulcan's ear. Right before she's about to do a mind-meld - again her words. What's next?? If she wants to headbutt anyone will she whip out a helmet shaped like a Klingon's ridges?? God dammit is this show ever stupid.

26) Rios closes a set of blinds. Is someone there now? Are they not worried that employees are going to start freaking out when they discover a nearly dead old man on the premises!?

27) Not Laris says she's into leaps of faith which seems to be completely counter to what Watchers actually do. It also seems to be a poorly written excuse to keep the writers from explaining this nonsense.

28) Knowing that she is jumping into a dream world Not Laris seems surprised that she jumps into a dream world.

29) Dream Picard again. None of this is real so honestly? Who cares. But I still find it odd that Dream Picard would be surprised to learn that Starfleet wouldn't have psychologists employed? (Don't tell me they blew up Mars too! lol)

30) Did Dream Psychologist just say, "John Luke"?

31) Not Laris walks down an corridor while several soundbites of vastly superior Star Trek episodes can be heard. The irony is not lost on me.

32) Not Laris seems scared for her physical well-being despite this being a dream world. Is a dream world mind that's practically comatose really a "sober" mind...?

33) Dream Picard, Junior Edition is a whinging little guy isn't he? Are they really going to try and convince us that the 94 year old synthetic android, who has achieved more than any other human being and battled through more than any other human being, is really traumatized from his guilt association with Momma Picard? FML are we really and truly expected to believe any of this implausible nonsense?

34) He did! He did say "John Luke"!

35) Except now he IS saying Jean Luc. What the actual what, man lol

36) Monsters attack Dream Not Laris, and honestly? Who cares.

37) Rios allows 2024 doctor to walk in on Picard and white eyed Not Laris because he is incompetent.
PART TWO...

38) There is absolutely no reason why Picard, Rios, and Not Laris shouldn't have also transported back to the La Sirena. This is stupid, sloppy, lazy, and incompetent writing.

39) Gee I sure do hope that is happening to Renee Picard right about now. Be so ironic if a Watcher wouldn't be there to witness or stop Renee from choking on a chicken bone at lunch while in quarantine or something. I guess that's that "leap of faith" she's rolling on about! Not like a guy didn't just try to murder her last night. Seriously how hilarious would it be if new board member Soong, feeling even more desperate, insisted on meeting the star quarantined astronaut, threatening to pull his funding if he didn't wish her off. Maybe a note from Renee's shrink that it would do her well to get such a prestigious send off from the totally not discredited doctor. And once alone with Renee new Europa board member Soong could infect her with some undetectable pathogen that will kill her in, say, two more days. You know? That's almost as dumb as what we've been getting. lmao

40) Face of "Monster" is purposely blurred so that the show can pretend there is tension leading up to a reveal. Literally this creative team is so uncreative that they are just repeating this same trope from the first episode and the stupidly hidden Borg Queen.

41) 2024 Doctor now tells us that "we are at life or death". I guess her using a defibrillator and having her hands inside Picard's chest (her words, not mine) didn't qualify as life or death. Great writing!!

42) Literally proving the point that Picard should be on the La Sirena, Raffi beams to Rios equipment that he needs. He almost seems shocked that a doctor in 2024 wouldn't possess the necessary equipment for a 25th century synthetic android! This show is so stupid.

43) Raffi, without a word, immediately beams the exact instrument Rios needs. This show is so stupid.

44) Raffi has some amazing aim! Transporting the stabilizer into Rios' hands! How did she know? She's amazing! This show is so stupid.

45) Good thing the Borg Queen didn't disable the transporters eh?? This show is so stupid.

46) Rios, a Starfleet captain, who absolutely would have basic medical and survival training, gives 2024 Doctor a 25th century stabilizer and encourages her to "be in the moment". You read that right. This is not a joke. This is actually something that happened in a Star Trek episode made today. Rios expects her to know how to use it. He is not merely incompetent but he is grossly negligent in his duties. These writers, producers, showrunner, etc. should all be replaced immediately.

47) 2024 Doctor legitimately asks if she'll kill him. Rios says he trusts her, as if that's an actual answer, and she stupidly proceeds anyway. This show is so stupid.

48) Seven of Nine literally spent several years assisting the Doctor on Voyager. She is absolutely the best person to be treating Picard at this moment.

49) Wait, what? We're back with Dream Not Laris & blurry faced Monster is magically no longer around or holding Dream Picard, Junior Edition? What kind of trash editing is this!?

50) Unprovoked and with no logic behind it Dream Not Laris asks boy if he is doing this on purpose? There is literally no motivational reason for Dream Not Laris to ask this question.

51) Writers forget to write a scene whereby Dream Not Laris confirms that the little bit she is talking to is, in fact, Dream Picard, and not just some random imaginary representation just like the "monsters" were. Who does Dream Not Laris know that the monster who choked her wasn't the Picard she was trying to connect with...?

52) So basically 2024 Doctor turns on 25th century stabilizer and holds it to Picard's head. Exactly why couldn't Rios do this? Or right, because he's incompetent and the writers are terrible.

53) A door appears in front of Dream Not Laris and Dream Picard, Junior Edition and despite his claims suggesting otherwise the door is in fact, not white.

54) Back to the La Sirena where the cloaking device is not engaged because crew is still incompetent and production team is without a showrunner that knows what they are doing. Sure hope that cope doesn't wake up right about now.

55) "At least the replicators work". If only the crew used them to replicate 2024 cellphones soon after arriving they could have blended in well and avoided all the ridiculous shenanigans associated with this ridiculous story. Could even have made it a priority for the auto repair program - itself a stupid gobbledygook contrivance - so that their mission be only delayed an hour or so.

56) Seven, finally resembling the Seven I've watched for years, is literally working hard to solve the problem of being locked out of the console. So naturally this is the time when Raffi wants to talk about her coffee... Fire these writers immediately.

57) Oh look. The internal camera trope.

58) Oh there is the white door. Still dumb.

59) In a twist that will surprise no one, Dream Psychologist is now Dream Papa Picard.

60) Why isn't Robert Picard anywhere? Surely the creative team didn't forget Picard's brother...

61) So instead of Papa Picard being confirmed as a physically abusive individual, it now seems that the show wants us to believe Momma Picard suffers from severe mental health issues. No idea where Robert is...

62) Dream Picard suggests to Dream Papa Picard that perhaps he never really knew him, and because this is still a dream, further knowledge of him is still not possible.

63) Dream Not Laris feels compelled to have a pep talk with Dream Picard, Junior Edition who, of course will never learn to do anything with his pain. This is, of course, more vapid virtue signalling from a terrible writing staff.

64) Picard wakes up for no reason whatsoever. I think the show equates Dream Momma Picard's diagnosis reveal with that of Picard learning something...?

65) Rios transports 2024 Doctor and 2024 Kid to La Sirena because, you know, fuck the timeline.

66) 2024 Doctor drops her coffee cup, and despite it smashing to bits, no coffee splashes anywhere.

67) 2024 Kid immediately exclaims he's gonna touch everything.

68) So let me get this straight. Seven & Raffi can't keep an eye on Ag-borg despite her centre stage cringeworthy solo performance, but now suddenly have the ability to tap into what I can only assume is City CCTV footage? They didn't think to do this after they first arrived at the clinic with Picard? You know what? I don't care... this show is so stupid.

69) Apparently Not Laris is a Romulan. Whatever, who cares.

70) With some spectacular logic leaping, Picard comes to the conclusion that he must "know" Q in order to beat him at his own game. Whatever, who cares.

71) Not Guinan has a McGuffin elixir what does something stupid. I hate everything about this.

72) Oh my god Seven is talking about endorphins being needed to assimilate Ag-borg faster. This might possibly be, the single stupidest thing I've ever seen in any Star Trek ever made. Spock's Brain is a masterpiece compared to the story idea that Both assimilate only because the recipient experiences endorphins. Picard literally killed a crewmember who was pleading for him to end his life on the Enterprise-E because the process of assimilation was excruciating and with his last ounce of humanity wanted to die rather than become Borg. Fuck this show. Fuck the awful writing from the irresponsible writers. Fuck Alex Kurtzman for wrecking this once-beloved franchise.

73) Bar door opens and Picard wonders if it's Q. And for a second, I really wanted George Wendt to make an appearance.

74) Not Guinan is an asshole to her customer.

75) Oh look at that, the whole federal agents suddenly appearing out of every nook and cranny trope. Amazing that none of them appeared from those backrooms sooner, what with all the demons speaking out loud and bottles magically rattling around.

76) Actual Guinan would never have been duped by this federal agent pretending to be a customer. Not Guinan didn't even know half the force was hiding in her stockroom lol.

77) Credits finally roll on what might be the worst single episode of the worst Star Trek show ever mad If you like it, that's great.But don't you think Star Trek fans deserve better than this???
Preach on. An incredible amount of telling. This is the major problem Star Trek has with not finding a happy medium between serialized and episodic series. Plus, I think it was Ronald D. Moore in his criticism of Voyager who said continuity is hard and takes time to get right. So you can't half-ass it and retconning things rarely works.

I don't hate this show. There are some good bits. John de Lancie and Orla Brady are excellent actors, as are most everybody else. Blame the showrunners, writers, etc.

But I am still shocked with the quality drop between episodes 1 & 2 and the rest of the season so far. Maybe 21st century Earth really is for the birds?
 
But I am still shocked with the quality drop between episodes 1 & 2 and the rest of the season so far. Maybe 21st century Earth really is for the birds?

It can't be a coincidence that Terry Matalas said he dropped out of showrunning duties for the last half of season 2 and that's when the season started to get worse.
 
Preach on. An incredible amount of telling. This is the major problem Star Trek has with not finding a happy medium between serialized and episodic series. Plus, I think it was Ronald D. Moore in his criticism of Voyager who said continuity is hard and takes time to get right. So you can't half-ass it and retconning things rarely works.

I don't hate this show. There are some good bits. John de Lancie and Orla Brady are excellent actors, as are most everybody else. Blame the showrunners, writers, etc.

But I am still shocked with the quality drop between episodes 1 & 2 and the rest of the season so far. Maybe 21st century Earth really is for the birds?
Nah. I'll bet it is simply not what people think of with Star Trek. They want spaceships and such and this interlude is more difficult to write for with our characters back in time. Time travel stories are difficult to write.

21st century Earth in Star Trek appears to be not the gold mine they might of thought it as.

Or they just gave up and don't give a fuck.
 
But I am still shocked with the quality drop between episodes 1 & 2 and the rest of the season so far. Maybe 21st century Earth really is for the birds?
My wife, who is very much not a Trekkie, loved this week's episode and keeps asking me when the next one will be posted. The 2024 stuff is for the mainstream, to bring in new viewers. It's not for the traditional Star Trek fan.
 
My wife, who is very much not a Trekkie, loved this week's episode and keeps asking me when the next one will be posted. The 2024 stuff is for the mainstream, to bring in new viewers. It's not for the traditional Star Trek fan.
That's encouraging. I like hearing from newer fans who find the value in this.
 
Why Oh Why oh why oh why did they just gloss over the fact that Picard is an android and somehow being taken care of by a 21st century doctor... An android that somehow requires psychotherapy to come out of a coma...
why oh why do you keep writing that Picard is an android when you’ve been told several times he isn’t?

The "endorphins" thing also wrecked my common sense. How does breaking a window create endorphins?
try it. You’ll be surprised.

Not Laris made one comment that she is safe but how can she be safe with Soong having too security clearances to get anywhere they are quarantining her.
since when he does?

This was by far the most stupid episode in the history of trek. I say that regularly the last few years
yes, you seem to say it quite regularly.

Watcher again. About to "mind-meld" (her words, not mine) with Picard. And because the show thinks we're absolutely stupid people, she's literally wearing something ridiculous that evokes a Vulcan's ear. Are you actually kidding me show. Do you think we are so stupid that we need a visual design to connect the dots of what Vulcans do when they mind-meld, and what this Not Laris character does now? I'm so embarassed. I'm so embarassed that this is what Star Trek is today. A metal device that just so happens to look like a Vulcan's ear. Right before she's about to do a mind-meld - again her words.
that was not the point. The point was foreshadowing that Talin was in fact romulan, something they already did at least twice in past episodes.

48) Seven of Nine literally spent several years assisting the Doctor on Voyager. She is absolutely the best person to be treating Picard at this moment.
mixing up seven and kes, are we?

51) Writers forget to write a scene whereby Dream Not Laris confirms that the little bit she is talking to is, in fact, Dream Picard, and not just some random imaginary representation just like the "monsters" were. Who does Dream Not Laris know that the monster who choked her wasn't the Picard she was trying to connect with...?
who else would he be? Besides, we knew he was Picard, we didn’t really need to be told again. Even you remembered who he was.

53) A door appears in front of Dream Not Laris and Dream Picard, Junior Edition and despite his claims suggesting otherwise the door is in fact, not white.
the white comes later. And you know it, so why writing this?

55) "At least the replicators work". If only the crew used them to replicate 2024 cellphones soon after arriving
why would the food replicator of a 25th century military vessel have the schematics off 21st century cell phones? Besides, the replicators were definitely offline in episode three, as said some time ago the ship is self repairing.

64) Picard wakes up for no reason whatsoever. I think the show equates Dream Momma Picard's diagnosis reveal with that of Picard learning something...?
Picard was stuck. Now he isn’t. They literally said it.
66) 2024 Doctor drops her coffee cup, and despite it smashing to bits, no coffee splashes anywhere.
I guess you have never discovered that you can drink from cups and that once you did whatever liquid was in there isn’t anymore. Try it, it should work.
72) Oh my god Seven is talking about endorphins being needed to assimilate Ag-borg faster. This might possibly be, the single stupidest thing I've ever seen in any Star Trek ever made.
Makes sense to me.
Fuck this show. Fuck the awful writing from the irresponsible writers. Fuck Alex Kurtzman for wrecking this once-beloved franchise
You might want to take a step back, breath calmly and reconsider your priorities.
so does the space ghost that lives in a candle and was boning all the women in Beverly Crusher’s family
oh god, why? I had just managed to forget about that. Thank you very much!

The scenes in Picard’s brain lacked emotional resonance for me, although I’m glad it was revealed Picard’s father wasn’t a wife beater, which wouldn’t have sat at all well with Trek’s vision of the future
agreed. But the proposed alternative doesn’t sit too well either, however it seems there is more to it, so it might be wrong as well.
 
An android that somehow requires psychotherapy to come out of a coma... The "endorphins" thing also wrecked my common sense. How does breaking a window create endorphins?


And if you have full control over Jurati why not just steal a motorcycle and go joy riding for a while? Also if the borg queen is in control of Jurati is she making herself feel good or is she trying to make Jurati feel good who isn't even in control (and probably terrified)?
You're getting bashed in the comments but even though I liked this episode everything you are pointing out about the logical breakdowns in the episode seem like legitimate criticism of the episode to me. Even though exercise does create endorphins breaking windows is not the first thing I or I think most people had in mind. If the Borg Queen is trying to make Jurati and/or herself feel good, why doesn't she just go grab a lonely guy for a night of fun in bed? It wouldn't be any raunchier than what Trek has done in, say, it's Enterprise Orion episodes or even what the Borg Queen herself did with Data in First Contact.
 
You're getting bashed in the comments but even though I liked this episode everything you are pointing out about the logical breakdowns in the episode seem like legitimate criticism of the episode to me. Even though exercise does create endorphins breaking windows is not the first thing I or I think most people had in mind. If the Borg Queen is trying to make Jurati and/or herself feel good, why doesn't she just go grab a lonely guy for a night of fun in bed? It wouldn't be any raunchier than what Trek has done in, say, it's Enterprise Orion episodes or even what the Borg Queen herself did with Data in First Contact.
Clearly someone hasn't broken a window. It is one of the first things that pop in to my head when I feel the need to feel better.

I don't. But I want to.
Instead of wasting your time defending the indefensible your time would be better spent on enjoying yourself and creating better memories.
Didn't you say you welcome comments? :vulcan:

Apparently this episode is indefensible so are the comments for show? :shrug:
 
So, with this episode.. Why does every character need some type of being a victim, or some type of trauma happens to them?
Picard: Mom was mentally ill, dad was a jerk, so was his brother for awhile.
Riker: Mom died, Dad was a jerk
Data: brother was homicidal,dad was quirky
Worf: Family killed, Wives killed.
Yar: grew up in a crappy colony
Troi: dad died, sister died, 2 Sons died..
Geordi: Blind, mom disappears

None have a normal healthy family, mom and dad alive, siblings alive, not everyone has to be a victim mentality or life altering trauma.
this is a well-known, long-standing Trek trope.
https://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/inconsistencies/biographies1.htm#other
 
Instead of wasting your time defending the indefensible your time would be better spent on enjoying yourself and creating better memories.
oh the irony.

Also, I’ll admit I found it amusing (or is it disturbing?) that Picard could potentially end up having a romantic relationship with a woman … and her great great great great great great grandmother. :lol:
and be an ancestor of the future woman! But honestly I’m still not seeing any romantic plot with Talin (or any plot at all…most unnecessary character of the season).

My wife, who is very much not a Trekkie, loved this week's episode and keeps asking me when the next one will be posted. The 2024 stuff is for the mainstream, to bring in new viewers. It's not for the traditional Star Trek fan.
this traditional Star Trek fan is quite enjoying this season!

I liked this episode everything you are pointing out about the logical breakdowns in the episode seem like legitimate criticism of the episode to me
Some of it is. A lot of it isn’t. All of it is delivered in a way too charged way.
If the Borg Queen is trying to make Jurati and/or herself feel good, why doesn't she just go grab a lonely guy for a night of fun in bed? It wouldn't be any raunchier than what Trek has done in, say, it's Enterprise Orion episodes or even what the Borg Queen herself did with Data in First Contact
even if I could pick up any random person in a bar to have a night of hot sex I wouldn’t feel good about having done it. Perhaps neither would Jurati (or the queen!).
 
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