Spoilers "Superman & Lois" Season 2

[Christopher]

I'm not quite sure what to make of Sarah continuing to hang out with Aubrey. I can understand wanting to have a friend who understands what she's going through, but hanging out with the girl who kissed her just seems to be asking for trouble.

I think that's too pessimistic. People can get over their pasts and move forward as friends. Like I said, assuming the worst tends to be self-fulfilling. If Jordan expects Sarah to choose Aubrey over him, he'll just push her away and make that more likely to happen. He should trust her and show her that he has faith in their relationship, give her the comfort she needs in a rough time in her life rather than causing her more angst by getting jealous.

Jealousy is a manifestation of fear, and we shouldn't let fear govern our lives. Superman is a symbol of hope, trust, and optimism. He brings out the best in others by believing the best of them. I'd like to see his sons inherit that from him.

 

[crookeddy]

Is the next episode the season finale?

 

[The Realist]

No. It's episode nine of 15.

 

[thribs]

Where is Superman? Where is Supergirl is what they should be asking. Why isn’t she stepping up?
Looks like they are trying to do the Reign of the Supermen story. Superman is gone. Steel is around, and so is Superboy. The Eradicator is somewhere making Cyborg Superman the only one missing. Im sure he’s coming somewhere down the line. This show likes showcasing the alternate Supermen.

 

[TREK_GOD_1]

Superman and Lois
Season 2 - Episode 9 - "30 Days and 30 Nights"

Clark/SM: SM vanishes attempting to track down nutjob Ally. for some reason, the news media is going on and on about SM's whereabouts when natural disasters/accidents occur and he's not around to help....you mean the world just went to Hell with people not solving their own problems before SM hit the scene? This kind of "where's Superman?" bit was to build on the impact his absence had on his family more than the public, but again, it makes the world seem helpless, as if they suddenly lost centuries of human ingenuity thanks to relying on SM.

Lois / Sam: Lois confronts Jordan about his rescue; Jordan argues that he saved Kyle's life, justifying his recent actions by pointing out that SM is gone, and no one knows when--or if he's returning. Jordan reveals Sam has trained him, and pointedly tells Lois that his father's absence is the very reason he needs to step up as a hero and does not need her permission because he's the one with superpowers. Essentially, that was Jordan's mic drop, as he walks off, leaving Lois speechless.

Later, Sam explains why he was training Jordan (not to be a weapon, as Lois charged) but warns his grandson to change his tone toward Lois.

Sam and Lois press Jonanthan to reveal the name of the X-K dealer; he agrees if Candace is granted immunity. Sam promises she will not face prosecution, but as Lois sets her eyes on the girl, she is not even trying to hide her instant resentment. After learning the location of Mickey's trailer (presumably the source of the X-K supply), Sam takes Jordan along to use his super-hearing, but with Lois accompanying them. She makes Jordan promise to stay in the car and not play hero...until Sam and Lois (after discovering the trailer is a full-on X-K manufacturing plant) is confronted by one of the dealers empowered by X-K. Taking them hostage, in the factory, a gunman prepares to kill the Lanes, when Lois calls for Jordan, who easily defeats the men. Sam is pleased that his grandson's training has paid off, while Lois tries to make sense the reality of Jordan's skills.

Irons /Natalie/Lana: So, Irons tried to fill in as local hero during SM's absence, but Natalie and Sarah were assuming Irons was flirting with Lana. Plot Convenience 101: this just so happened to be the anniversary of alternate Lois' death, which Natalie wanted to commemorate in some way--but she believes her father failed to acknowledge it in any way. He explains that his obsessive reaction to alter-Lois' death made sent his life on the wrong path--and does not wnt to only remember her for her death, but Natalie does not share his perspective.

Watching video from Natalie's birth, Irons settles into the idea that he can remember his wife sans thinking about her death. For a moment, the writers were leading the viewers to think his "I see her everyday" line was about Lois, but he meant seeing traits of his wife in Natalie. Whew.

Anderson / Ally: She ascended. Unfortunately, she will not stay in that Bizarro world.

Jordan/Sarah: The showrunners are Hell-bent on laying down as much confusion &roadblocks in Jordan's relationship with Sarah as possible, and while someone might argue that he's slowly fitting into the role of a "Super-Son," this seems like its more about how Sarah will respond than Jordan's life choices. Oh well, she broke up with Jordan (SEE NOTES) because he's not putting her first, and moves in with her father, who promises to help her.

Lana/Kyle/Sarah: Sarah checks in on her father--but he's bleeding from aback wound. She's hoping he's believing he will reconcile with Lana (in the wake of seeing Lana flirt with Irons), but he's not really pushing the idea of a reunion. Sarah tries to plead Kyle's case (referring to his heath and his poor living conditions) in the hope he can return back home, but Lana is flatly dismissive, saying Kyle has to live with the choices he's made.

Sarah reruns to her father with more of his belongings, implying he should get used to living in the apartment because his relationship with Lana is over...but he turns it into a conversation about Jordan, only adding to Sarah's doubts about her relationship.

Lana wins the election (SEE NOTES).

Jonathan: Thanks to taking the rap for Candace, Jonathan is blamed for the suspension of the football team's season, but in the end, his relationship with Candace seems to be stable--but he's not, as he suffers from a similar headache to Clark, when Bizarro entered his reality. In this case, its the leather jacket-wearing Jonathan from the Bizarro world, who has landed at the Kent farm, warning Lois & Jordan about SM's situation....

NOTES:
Gee...Sarah breaks up with Jordan, but his hands are tied because he has a responsibility to fill in his for his missing father. While Sarah seeks companionship with her father, one can only wonder if her heartbreak will be tossed over her shoulder as she starts a relationship with someone from a certain camp....

Superman and Lois is very much the Party of Five/Typical 1990s Aaron Spelling Drama occasionally flashing a cape; to that point, the entire Lana saga seems like the framework for more of that type of drama, as there's no way her time as mayor will be a positive turning point for Lana,or do anything other than build more walls between herself and her family, and with that comes tears and anger, especially if the Irons-Has-Eyes-For-Lana idea is played up.

The next episode airs April 26.

GRADE: C.

 

[Tuskin38]

Ugh nearly a month break.

 

[Caretaker]

Where is Superman? Where is Supergirl is what they should be asking. Why isn’t she stepping up?

I had the same thought. It should only take one line, similar to the one in Armageddeon. Of course, in this case, it would need to be explained where she has been for a whole month.

 

[Tosk]

I'm glad the show continues to ignore the Arrowverse for the most part. I hope it stays that way.

I thoroughly enjoyed that ep, I buy into the emotional parts of every storyline going right now.

 

[Christopher]

Not bad, I guess, but it's frustrating how little screen time Clark/Superman tends to get in this series sometimes. I guess this is how they're doing the "Death of Superman" riff they've been setting up all season (both seasons, given Steel's inclusion), but I hope it doesn't last too long.

When Superman did that whirling-really-fast thing in the cavern, for a moment I was afraid they were riffing on Superman: The Movie's idiotic climax and were going to have him locally reverse time within the cave to bring Ally back. Instead, he was just... no, I don't know, what the hell was he doing? Building up speed to get into the portal? Why did he need to do that? How did he know he needed to do that? And how was Officer Wu able to just stand there unaffected by the hurricane-force winds he was surely generating in that enclosed space? I hate how often filmmakers forget that air is a thing.

I thought they were setting Jordan up to be Superboy, but now it looks like Bizarro Jonathan is going to be the one. Will they be rival Superboys?

Incidentally, when Jordan was asserting himself to Lois and getting confident and stern, for the first time, I saw a strong resemblance between him and Jon.

I'm glad the show continues to ignore the Arrowverse for the most part. I hope it stays that way.

The problem is that they specifically set it up in Crisis as part of the Arrowverse and it's nominally supposed to be, so having them treat it like a self-contained universe is annoyingly inconsistent. If they'd just set it up as an independent universe from the start, like Stargirl and Naomi, that would be less frustrating.

Also, if this is a version of the universe where Superman is Earth's only superhero, that just makes it grossly irresponsible for him to pop off to another universe without making arrangements first (or I should say even more grossly irresponsible, since he didn't even let Lois know first). His impulsive departure would be more excusable if it were clear that there were other heroes. Like Caretaker said, it would've just taken a slight rewrite to the news report. "Supergirl, the Flash, and others are assisting where they can, but they're stretched thin without the Man of Steel," or something like that.

 

[Tuskin38]

So maybe in the Bizzaro World it was Jon that got powers, not Jordan?

Bizzaro World Superman, based on the trailer for the next episode, was a more public figure. He was arriving to a public event, in a limo, with his family.

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[Tosk]

So maybe in the Bizzaro World it was Jon that got powers, not Jordan?

Or both.

 

[The Realist]

Extended trailer for the next ep (almost a month from now ):

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[Nerys Myk]

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Getting Margo Kidder vibes from Lois' Bizarro World haircut (BizarLo?)

 

[Mudd]

 

[Mudd]

Not bad, I guess, but it's frustrating how little screen time Clark/Superman tends to get in this series sometimes. I guess this is how they're doing the "Death of Superman" riff they've been setting up all season (both seasons, given Steel's inclusion), but I hope it doesn't last too long.

When Superman did that whirling-really-fast thing in the cavern, for a moment I was afraid they were riffing on Superman: The Movie's idiotic climax and were going to have him locally reverse time within the cave to bring Ally back. Instead, he was just... no, I don't know, what the hell was he doing? Building up speed to get into the portal? Why did he need to do that? How did he know he needed to do that? And how was Officer Wu able to just stand there unaffected by the hurricane-force winds he was surely generating in that enclosed space? I hate how often filmmakers forget that air is a thing.

I thought they were setting Jordan up to be Superboy, but now it looks like Bizarro Jonathan is going to be the one. Will they be rival Superboys?

Incidentally, when Jordan was asserting himself to Lois and getting confident and stern, for the first time, I saw a strong resemblance between him and Jon.




The problem is that they specifically set it up in Crisis as part of the Arrowverse and it's nominally supposed to be, so having them treat it like a self-contained universe is annoyingly inconsistent. If they'd just set it up as an independent universe from the start, like Stargirl and Naomi, that would be less frustrating.

Also, if this is a version of the universe where Superman is Earth's only superhero, that just makes it grossly irresponsible for him to pop off to another universe without making arrangements first (or I should say even more grossly irresponsible, since he didn't even let Lois know first). His impulsive departure would be more excusable if it were clear that there were other heroes. Like Caretaker said, it would've just taken a slight rewrite to the news report. "Supergirl, the Flash, and others are assisting where they can, but they're stretched thin without the Man of Steel," or something like that.

That's quite a lot of trivial issues to get worked up over.

 

[Ryan Thomas Riddle]

The journalism has completely tanked this season. At least we got a glimpse of Lois writing a school board story. But she's advising Lana's campaign. Talk about a clear conflict of interest in the open! Hope she's not writing any stories or Op-Eds on the election. (Yes yes there's the covering Superman stuff, which they discussed last season a bit.)

So was Chrissy covering the election? Where was the Gazette at all? The biggest story in Smallville and no one seems to be covering it.

That being said, I do like the family drama stuff this past episode. I suspect we'll see Jordan's Superboy by season's end.

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Great Rao! That's hilarious!

 

[JD]

Not a ton of superhero stuff this week, but some pretty good drama.
It was fun to get to see Jordan getting his Superboy on some more.
As sad as it might be for Jordan, I can understand Sarah breaking up with him, especially with everything going on in life right now. I'm kind of amazed how many superheroes manage to keep a stable relationship going with partners who don't know their secrets. You'd think a lot more of them would get sick of their constant disappearing and end things.
It will be interesting to see if they actually do get Lana and John Henry together.
I just checked the Arrowverse Wiki and it says Kyle is the Fire Chief, and if he is you would think he would be making enough money that he could afford a better place than that.

 

[Christopher]

It will be interesting to see if they actually do get Lana and John Henry together.

That would be weird. I mean, Lana is still married to Kyle, they're just separated while they work through some things. I've been assuming she'd take Kyle back eventually. After all, the thing she kicked him out for was something that happened two years ago, and the only thing he did wrong lately was not to tell her about it. He's been a pretty good husband and father otherwise, so I have a hard time believing this is permanent.

I just checked the Arrowverse Wiki and it says Kyle is the Fire Chief, and if he is you would think he would be making enough money that he could afford a better place than that.

He doesn't think of it as more than a temporary dwelling, so I guess he didn't put a lot of money or care into it.

 

[Jayson1]

Is Kyle still the Chief? I think when the town turned on him he might have lost that position and is now just back as a employee.

 

[Commander Troi]

Maybe it's just the version of Jonathan that exists there is "Superboy" and he never actually is that in the shows main universe.

So maybe in the Bizzaro World it was Jon that got powers, not Jordan?

DINGDINGDING! Once I realized *everything* in Bizarro World is opposite, I figured out that the "Superboy" we've seen set photos of has to be Bizarro-Jon.

Sam explains why he was training Jordan

I was quite pleased with that. The kid *needs* to know how to use and control his abilities so as not to be a danger to those around him.

Also, knowing a bunch of people with teen and young adult children, I was very happy they showed that Lois, like most mothers, knows intellectually that her kids are growing up but emotionally still sees them as children.

When Superman did that whirling-really-fast thing in the cavern, for a moment I was afraid they were riffing on Superman: The Movie's idiotic climax and were going to have him locally reverse time within the cave to bring Ally back. Instead, he was just... no, I don't know, what the hell was he doing?

I *think* it was to cover himself with dust from the cave as a way of protecting himself when going through the portal.

As sad as it might be for Jordan, I can understand Sarah breaking up with him, especially with everything going on in life right now. I'm kind of amazed how many superheroes manage to keep a stable relationship going with partners who don't know their secrets. You'd think a lot more of them would get sick of their constant disappearing and end things.

EXACTLY! I was pleased to see that, especially because Jordan hasn't really had to deal with the "downsides" of superheroing yet and needs to see some.

That would be weird. I mean, Lana is still married to Kyle, they're just separated while they work through some things. I've been assuming she'd take Kyle back eventually. After all, the thing she kicked him out for was something that happened two years ago, and the only thing he did wrong lately was not to tell her about it. He's been a pretty good husband and father otherwise, so I have a hard time believing this is permanent.

That's certainly possible, but Lana just found out, so emotionally it's like it just happened. She's going to be pissed off for awhile.

Also, I think it's been mentioned on the show that Lana and Kyle have been together since high school. Finding out about the infidelity may have been the catalyst, but she's trying to figure out now if she still wants to be with him. There are reasons middle-aged women ask for divorce at fairly high rates these days.