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News Obi-Wan Kenobi series premiering on May 27

David cgc said:
I'm not quite picking up what he's putting down, but Pablo Hidalgo tweeted conspicuously about Obi-Wan and Maul tonight: "Hard to believe that Star Wars Rebels, "Twin Suns" aired five years ago this week, on March 18, 2017. Which means its story was worked out around August of 2015."

I mean, it's not like Disney Star Wars is quite as immune to toe-stepping as it advertised itself as during the Legends switchover, what with Poe, Kanan, and Cobb Vanth's backstories being rewritten to one degree or another by more recent and closer-to-live-action media.
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I'm pretty sure that's Pablo calling bullshit on the premise of the article. Or at least it's interpretation of the events described.
JD said:
I always took 3PO's line to mean that the Sarlacc had some kind of special process that kept it's victims alive for 1000 years. There's already a lot ridiculous stuff in the franchise, so I don't see where that's so bad.
And I never read any Legends EU stuff with the Sarlacc, so I had no idea it followed that interpretation until I read through this thread.
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I'm pretty sure the digestion process of most creatures doesn't require the subject to be alive. Indeed, that's usually a bad thing for the creature doing the digestion. Personally, I think the 1000 years thing is just an in-universe myth ("think goldfish have three second memories", "lemmings jump off cliffs", and "bulls will attack anything red".) Something Jabba likes to taunt his victims with before he has them thrown in. He's nothing of not grotesquely sadistic.

I mean just look at that Stormtrooper's armor. It was pretty well on it's way for being dissolved and it couldn't have been in there for more than two decades at the absolute most. That suit is made of a material that's bound to be way more acid resistant than anything in a squishy human body, so if it's that pitted in anything under 500 years, no way an organic body can hold up for a millennia.

And I'm sorry but the notion that the Sarlacc would actively keep it's food alive is just plain dumb. The whole point of digesting something is to extract chemical energy and resources from it. Keeping such a thing alive means putting energy and resources *in*, not taking it *out*.
 
STEPhon IT said:
Windu is coming back because there's no evidence to claim he's dead.
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Other than all the evidenced cited in this thread, no, none at all.

STEPhon IT said:
When these characters are resurrected, critics who don't like the examples such as Fett, Maul, and Palpatine, don't have to watch it.
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You're right. And, yet, people will still watch because they hate it. That's what fans insist upon doing, no matter what. It makes no sense, defies all reason, and yet here we are.

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If we see Maul, I would think it would be in context of him encountering an Inquisitor or perhaps Darth Vader. Maul did have the remains of an Inquisitor's lightsaber when the Rebel's group found him.
 
Reverend said:
Personally, I think the 1000 years thing is just an in-universe myth
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That's how I always took it. Just some horror-inducing hyperbole. Digesting a victim for 1000 years makes zero sense, alive or not. If they're alive, how does it keep them that way? If they're dead, why is its digestion millions of times slower than normal putrefaction?
 
Tosk said:
That's how I always took it. Just some horror-inducing hyperbole. Digesting a victim for 1000 years makes zero sense, alive or not. If they're alive, how does it keep them that way? If they're dead, why is its digestion millions of times slower than normal putrefaction?
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IDK, literally middle of nowhere in the desert. How often does food come by? Perhaps the Sarlacc's first digestive step is to preserve whatever it's swallowed, so it can release it much farther down the road for actual digestion.
 
How would that be a new definition of pain and suffering? Either way you slice it, it's just scary words. Unless of course...Sarlaacs truly are the fountain of youth! Woah.
 
There was something in tie-in materials, I can't remember if it was old EU or the new D-canon, about how sarlaccs had sort of hive minds, and that the consciousness of its victims would be absorbed into that of the sarlaac. That would definitely be a tortured existence. I think the whole notion is far-fetched, though. How would science ever confirm it? Do they have some way of communicating with sarlaccs? Or did others before Boba escape from sarlaccs and describe the experience?

As an aside, I thought the stuff about baby sarlaccs in the Galaxy's Edge comics was interesting.

Kor
 
Kor said:
There was something in tie-in materials, I can't remember if it was old EU or the new D-canon, about how sarlaccs had sort of hive minds, and that the consciousness of its victims would be absorbed into that of the sarlaac. That would definitely be a tortured existence. I think the whole notion is far-fetched, though. How would science ever confirm it? Do they have some way of communicating with sarlaccs? Or did others before Boba escape from sarlaccs and describe the experience?

As an aside, I thought the stuff about baby sarlaccs in the Galaxy's Edge comics was interesting.

Kor
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That was from one of the Star Wars anthology series, "Tales from Jabba's Palace" (I believe-could be wrong). Basically, it's about Fett, and how he was trapped with another victim of the Sarlacc. The victim was more telepathic and could kind of describe what was happening to them in a way, and that was part of it. The consciousness of the victim was slowly absorbed which is why the length of time to digest took so long.
 
YellowSubmarine said:
Windu is alive.

Sooner or later he will come back.

That's just how fiction works. A writer will want to write for Windu during the Empire era, and they will.
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Actually, most fiction isn't endlessly retconned and rewritten by dozens of different authors with competing viewpoints and agendas, under the auspices of a massive corporation that is looking to squeeze every drop out of its nostalgia-obsessed fanbase.

In most fiction, characters die and stay dead.
 
Going to be honest, I don't get why anybody wants Mace Windu back. Well, other than Sam Jackson, obviously. Can anybody explain to me what the appeal is?

The character is meant to embody the strength and nobility of the Republic Jedi, who falls before Palpatine/Vader at the climax of RotS. If anything, having the character return completely undermines the film in a way Boba Fett's survival can't undemine RotJ because Fett is such a small component as opposed to Windu's role in the PT.

Besides which, what story are you going to tell with a Windu who survived? Given what we've seen of the character from the PT and The Clone Wars, he's not going to wind up a disillusioned knight like Cal/Kanan or even Obi-Wan seems to for a bit. Are we doing a Windu falls to the Dark Side plot? That seems counterproductive and unlikely, doesn't it? So he'd fight. And he's not exactly a sneaky or behind the scenes kind of guy. So we're talking taking the fight to the Empire and Palpatine directly. Which means any Mace Windu story almost certainly ends with a rematch with Anakin/Vader.

And that fight can, by it's very nature and the larger narrative at play in the world, only end one way. Are you all so eager to see Sam Jackson sliced and diced by Vader?
 
Xerxes82 said:
Going to be honest, I don't get why anybody wants Mace Windu back. Well, other than Sam Jackson, obviously. Can anybody explain to me what the appeal is?
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I don't simply want Mace to return. I have no objection to Mace returning to be a part of a compelling story. I would object to Mace returning for an awful story.

Full disclosure: The Book of Boba Fett is presently the high water mark for Disney-era live action Star Wars. I've opined why over in the TBoBF thread, so I won't repeat myself here. I hope that Obi-Wan Kenobi will exceed it, and I hope at least we can all agree on that!

If you'd asked be before MANDO and TBoBF had come out whether Fett's return would make a compelling story, I would have simply said: "It depends." I never would have had him teaming up with the Tusken Raiders, which, as it turns out, was a masterstroke.

So, Mace? It depends.

Also, Obi? It depends!

Everything? it depends.
 
CorporalCaptain said:
The moral of this story, for 99% of all discussion on the board really, is that we don't all want or like the same things.
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No, that's not it :P

But, to be fair, of the live action shows Obi-Wan Kenobi series is the one that has the most potential for me. It is the one that I would say I want, vs. random bounty hunter stories unasked for.
 
I just want a good story for Obi-Wan. Kenobi was the best thing about the prequels and I’m so excited to see the story that they want to tell. If, *IF* they can find a compelling reason to bring back Mace Windu short of “he’s a kewl character, we never saw a body and more Jedi than just Obi-Wan, Anakin, Ahsoka and Kanan HAD to survive so why not Windu?” That a compelling story does not make. On top of that, with Owen, Beru, Luke, the inquisitors and Vader/Anakin, I’m not sure there’s a lot of air in these six episodes for Samuel L. Jackson and Mace Windu to breathe.

I’m not a huge Fett fan, but I admittedly was intrigued by what Book of Boba Fett could have been. Ive said this before in this thread but the time with the Tuskens was amazing. And the two Mando episodes posing as BoBF episodes were wonderful (even if completely out of place). Too bad the main plot devolved into a big mess. I just would prefer that Obi-Wan doesn’t turn into something similar. Shoehorning a character in to do kewl things (I’m looking at you, Vader scene in Rogue One) would likely make me roll my eyes.

This is, of course, all just my opinion.
 
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