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Maul's coming back didn't bother me but I had played Jedi Knight: Dark Forces II.
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So by "come back from the dead" I take you to mean characters that seemingly died and were only brought back later in a different story? Ahsoka still counts, she 'died' in the season 2 finale of Rebels.
Ahsoka was shown to have survived within the episode that she was supposedly killed.
 
So by "come back from the dead" I take you to mean characters that seemingly died and were only brought back later in a different story? Ahsoka still counts, she 'died' in the season 2 finale of Rebels.
No she didn't; you can literally see her walking down into the ruins.
Mysterious? Yes. Ambiguous? No. Dead people generally don't walk.
Ambiguously...and then we learn later that she was indeed killed.
No we didn't. What show were you even watching?
 
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What show were you even watching?
I was watching the show where Ezra looked back in time and then pulled Ahsoka out a split second before Vader's saber took her head off.

I guess time travel makes it difficult for me to argue the point. "If he saved her, then she didn't die" so I suppose 'would have' died is more accurate, but then the same could be said for others. Fett would have died if he didn't escape the Sarlaac. Maul would have died if he'd been cut in half vertically instead of horizontally. I'm finding it tricky to separate the the two kinds of death we're talking about. "Dead until they're not" (eg Fett) vs "Actually dead and brought back to life" (eg Rey)

...I'm pretty sure I've totally confused the hell out of myself.

Dead people generally don't walk.
We've seen dead people walk, talk, sit, and even bonk Luke on the head. ;)
 
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The old EU did go with the interpretation the Sarlacc did indeed keep its victims alive for the whole thousand years they were being digested, based on C-3PO's line about the experience being a new definition of pain and suffering.

Fuck the old EU! But, seriously, you can still be suffering for the normal amount of time it would take you to die via digestion. Being kept alive for 1000 years is kinda dumb. But that's the EU for you!

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I was watching the show where Ezra looked back in time and then pulled Ahsoka out a split second before Vader's saber took her head off.
That is 100% not what happened. He didn't go *back*, he pulled her out of that moment, and then she returned after the detonation. Nothing changed. This is always what happened, as evidenced by her *walking away* in the initial episode. 'World Between Worlds' just filled in the blanks between when the temple sealed itself and when the dust settled. it all always happened that way.
We've seen dead people walk, talk, sit, and even bonk Luke on the head. ;)
We've seen seethrough blue glowey people appear to other people (and visible only to them.) Ahsoka was neither blue nor glowey, was entirely opaque, and there was nobody there for her to appear too.
 
I thought the same thing when the first shot of him being alive happened, but after that he became one of the best written villains in the franchise.

Maul was redeemed, yes. But I still question the necessity resurrect him in the first place. Boba, on the other hand, I was very hopeful that they would make him more worthwhile in the new canon with his surviving the sarlaac pit. Alas, while his time with the Tuskens was interesting (and the Mando side quest), the rest of The Book of Boba Fett was quite the snore fest.
 
Fett should have stayed dead.
Maul should have stayed dead.
Can we just let one character STAY dead please?

Not when studios cater to the worst tendencies of fandom, ignoring the valid reasons certain characters were killed off. Unless a return was planned or foreshadowed to some degree, dead characters serve the story remaining 6 feet under, like Windu, Fett, et al.
 
So, what about Maul? That was a a decision that got Lucas approval, not just studio fiat. And since Lucas killed Maul off originally does that invalidate Maul's death initially?
 
So, what about Maul? That was a a decision that got Lucas approval, not just studio fiat. And since Lucas killed Maul off originally does that invalidate Maul's death initially?
It didn't just get Lucas's approval, it was his idea in the first place. He decided he wanted to tell more stories with Maul and so he told his creative team that he's bringing him back!
 
I'm glad they decided to move away from Maul, having him and Obi-Wan run into each other between The Clone Wars and Rebels would have really hurt their encounter in Rebels. I think that scene really works best if they haven't seen each other since the war ended.
Well, no, it says that the Sarlaac slowly "digests" its prey over 1000 years. That just means it takes a long time to make it through the Sarlaac's stomach and intestines, not that you're alive while all that's happening. Frankly, IMO, Fett should have stayed dead. Bringing him back was just the worst kind of fan service.

Though I agree with your larger point that Mace is definitely dead as disco.
I always took 3PO's line to mean that the Sarlacc had some kind of special process that kept it's victims alive for 1000 years. There's already a lot ridiculous stuff in the franchise, so I don't see where that's so bad.
And I never read any Legends EU stuff with the Sarlacc, so I had no idea it followed that interpretation until I read through this thread.

True, but one shouldn't even need books. Luke is a Jedi, he had 30 odd years to train himself and get more powerful. You don't need a teacher for that, especially since once Jedi become knights, they are no longer taught by masters, they're on their own.
He's going to need some way to learn new skills, if he didn't have the books, or another teacher, all he'd be able to do is just spend 30 years practicing the stuff Yoda and Obi-Wan taught him.
 
I'm glad they decided to move away from Maul, having him and Obi-Wan run into each other between The Clone Wars and Rebels would have really hurt their encounter in Rebels. I think that scene really works best if they haven't seen each other since the war ended.

I'm not quite picking up what he's putting down, but Pablo Hidalgo tweeted conspicuously about Obi-Wan and Maul tonight: "Hard to believe that Star Wars Rebels, "Twin Suns" aired five years ago this week, on March 18, 2017. Which means its story was worked out around August of 2015."

I mean, it's not like Disney Star Wars is quite as immune to toe-stepping as it advertised itself as during the Legends switchover, what with Poe, Kanan, and Cobb Vanth's backstories being rewritten to one degree or another by more recent and closer-to-live-action media.

I always took 3PO's line to mean that the Sarlacc had some kind of special process that kept it's victims alive for 1000 years. There's already a lot ridiculous stuff in the franchise, so I don't see where that's so bad.
And I never read any Legends EU stuff with the Sarlacc, so I had no idea it followed that interpretation until I read through this thread.

Between that and Yoda's line about Luke not looking so good once he turned 900, when I was little, I thought people in Star Wars just lived a really long time.
 
I'm glad they decided to move away from Maul, having him and Obi-Wan run into each other between The Clone Wars and Rebels would have really hurt their encounter in Rebels. I think that scene really works best if they haven't seen each other since the war ended.

Agree.


I always took 3PO's line to mean that the Sarlacc had some kind of special process that kept it's victims alive for 1000 years. There's already a lot ridiculous stuff in the franchise, so I don't see where that's so bad.

Bad or not, it's pure speculation. Which you're welcome to believe as long as you don't insist it's gospel.

He's going to need some way to learn new skills, if he didn't have the books, or another teacher, all he'd be able to do is just spend 30 years practicing the stuff Yoda and Obi-Wan taught him.

No skill works that way. You can expand your knowledge and skills on your own, you don't need to be "taught" everything.

Some musical prodigies, for instance, learn instruments with no instruction at all.
 
When these characters are resurrected, critics who don't like the examples such as Fett, Maul, and Palpatine, don't have to watch it. Windu is coming back because there's no evidence to claim he's dead.
 
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