Spoilers New Picard TV Series and Litverse Continuity (may contain TV show spoilers)

[F. King Daniel]

As I said in the other thread and on twitter, sucks to be Stargazer's first captain. He dies in the line of duty and doesn't even get his name on the commemoration plaque!

These were all written by Geoffrey Mandel by the way, of fan-published manual fame back in the day.

 

[The Wormhole]

Huh. So the Kurtzman team's mindset is that Voyager never returned to duty after completing the famous mission?

I guess I could see Starfleet exploiting the PR opportunity for a must-see museum exhibit, but that still surprises me given the active-duty storytelling opportunities lost.

Season 2 of Lower Decks implies a Voyager A could already be in service as of 2381.

 

[DGCatAniSiri]

That's not an uncommon interpretation (and IIRC, was implied in the alternate future in "Endgame," though in that case, the ship had a lot more miles on it).

Hey, they gotta get to the Voyager-J at some point, right?

Considering all the tech integrated into Voyager as a whole, from Borg upgrades to Admiral Janeway’s tech from the future, it’s not surprising that Starfleet would come down on saying that there’s too much in the ship’s systems to study to have the ship fly again - By the time they’re done examining everything in the ship proper that the crew have running that isn’t standard Starfleet issue, Voyager herself would easily be even further out of date with the standard.

I mean, the novels framing the Voyager that Chakotay takes command of as the same one that they used in the show honestly felt like a cheat to begin with. I have a hard time seeing the various parts of Starfleet just ripping the tech out and sending the ship out again, even with the Golden novels framing it as happening over a period of several months before Voyager relaunched.

I do hope the Voyager museum isn’t parked near Alcatraz, though. That always felt like an uncomfortable metaphor, as if calling Voyager a prison...

 

[David cgc]

I do hope the Voyager museum isn’t parked near Alcatraz, though. That always felt like an uncomfortable metaphor, as if calling Voyager a prison...

Not if they still park it in San Francisco, it’s a big island and a small city, you can probably see Alcatraz from anywhere in the city 20 stories above ground level. Maybe they could turn around the ship so it’s not pointed that way this time, and you’d just see into the bay from the shuttle bay.

 

[Avro Arrow]

One of the little background plaques at Starfleet Academy gives Uhura a post-STVI captaincy. That said, not visible at all in the episode so about as canon as Hoshi's death on Tarsus IV.

Might not be canon, but I'd still pay money to read that novel!

Season 2 of Lower Decks implies a Voyager A could already be in service as of 2381.

Who knows, maybe the Voyager-A was already in service before Voyager returned, to honour the "lost" crew. Then Voyager would pretty much have to be decommissioned upon returning, otherwise things would just get awkward.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

Season 2 of Lower Decks implies a Voyager A could already be in service as of 2381.

Which episode?

 

[Tuskin38]

Season 2 of Lower Decks implies a Voyager A could already be in service as of 2381.

Mariner was just trying to bullshit her way into the club.
She said Voyager-D, not even A, B or C.

Which episode?

2x05

 

[Allyn Gibson]

Considering all the tech integrated into Voyager as a whole, from Borg upgrades to Admiral Janeway’s tech from the future, it’s not surprising that Starfleet would come down on saying that there’s too much in the ship’s systems to study to have the ship fly again - By the time they’re done examining everything in the ship proper that the crew have running that isn’t standard Starfleet issue, Voyager herself would easily be even further out of date with the standard.

I imagine there was probably a tug-of-war between various Starfleet factions over who got their hands on ship. The DTI probably argued strongly to drop the Voyager into the sun before anyone examined it, to prevent timeline contamination.

 

[chrinFinity]

The DTI probably argued strongly to drop the Voyager into the sun before anyone examined it, to prevent timeline contamination.

Was that a joke? Because you know how DTI feels about jokes.

There's no time for them.

 

[The Wormhole]

Mariner was just trying to bullshit her way into the club.
She said Voyager-D, not even A, B or C.

Granted, but it's not farfetched to assume Mariner based her comment on some facts, mainly that a Voyager A was already in service or at least publicly announced.

 

[Josh Kelton]

Huh. So the Kurtzman team's mindset is that Voyager never returned to duty after completing the famous mission?

A lot of the ship seems to have been dismantled.

https://trekmovie.com/2022/02/03/in...s-timelines-janeways-combadges-and-much-more/

As has been hinted elsewhere in Trek lore, the original Voyager was taken apart and studied upon its return to earth and it’s destined to be turned into a floating museum. In the meantime, Admiral Janeway has a new fast little ship to command.

 

[Enterprise1701]

Amusingly, David Mack's Oblivion's Gate did indeed precede us getting to see alternate timeline 24th century pseudo-Federation starships with the prefix 'C.S.S.'

 

[F. King Daniel]

Amusingly, David Mack's Oblivion's Gate did indeed precede us getting to see alternate timeline 24th century pseudo-Federation starships with the prefix 'C.S.S.'

Well.... the Renegades: Requiem fan film got there first. After being pressured to scrub all direct Trek references, the Federation became the Confederation and the U.S.S. Archer became the C.S.S. Archer.

 

[thribs]

So when are we getting World Razer books? Probably can’t call them Star Trek books. Since they’re always at war, call them Star Wars books.

 

[Avro Arrow]

So when are we getting World Razer books?

Pretty sure I don't want to read a series of ostensible "Star Trek" books where humans are bigoted assholes and go around murdering people.

I mean, I can get that by reading the news.

 

[Tuskin38]

Do we know how popular were the Mirror Universe books? Considering there has been so few.

Though most of them followed people trying to fight the Empire, or the KCA. But they were still pretty brutal.

 

[Mike Doyle]

Do we know how popular were the Mirror Universe books? Considering there has been so few.

Though most of them followed people trying to fight the Empire, or the KCA. But they were still pretty brutal.

Seems popular as a comics line but obviously a very different medium

 

[thribs]

Pretty sure I don't want to read a series of ostensible "Star Trek" books where humans are bigoted assholes and go around murdering people.

I mean, I can get that by reading the news.

We’ve had books about the mirror universe and the Imperials in Star Wars.
They could always base it around the evil
Aliens if they want to.

 

[Avro Arrow]

We’ve had books about the mirror universe

The Mirror Universe novels were admittedly great, but as @Tuskin38 mentioned, they weren't just about the Empire committing atrocities (although some of that was certainly present).

For sure, the Star Trek authors could certainly write a similarly-compelling story set in the "Confederation of Earth" timeline if they wanted to. But a series that was just the adventures of the CSS World Razer as they plundered their way through the galaxy and brought every civilization they came across under heel, would not be something I would be interested in.

 

[thribs]

World Razer vs the Borg. You can’t have any issue with that.